as if north koria would attack the second most powerfull nation on earth

Easy Sailor!
I don't think Neighbour was attacking YOU.

I don't see how you can interpret his comment as anything other than a direct ad hominim upon myself.

to quote: "No sir, the real question is how a redneck monkey like yourself came upon a computer and not only managed to power it up, but sign into IMDb and string together what could pass as a sentence."

I will not go easy on some liberal piece of trash who attributes to others his own inadequacies.


And yes it is a message-board where opinions are bandied back and forth. I was a little over-simplistic with my "keep it to yourself" but it was just that I did not want to get so bothered into defending the whole anti-American bullsh!t and his caricaturization of me as some blind patriotic simpleton, which was spewing from his nether-hole. And even though everyone is entitled to an opinion, some opinions are best kept private.
He is little more than a troll and I will not go easy.

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And your point is?


FACT: He couldn't spell North Korea.
FACT: he got other information wrong as well (USA the SECOND most powerful in the world?)

Pointing out facts is not an ad hominem.

Whereas the attack upon me was made up falsehoods with no basis in reality. thus it was an ad hominem.


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88 is NOT low. 99 is a perfect score which I SERIOUSLY DOUBT you got.
and no.. a second grader could NOT take the test.
You're just being an ass.

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Thanks for playing just how stupid can you be.

North Korea does have the ability to attack the USA, that is a fact.
It could attack US forces in South Korea.

Of course it can. No one was stating it could not. We are discussing an Invasion of Mainland USA, not a military attack to other military forces along it's border.
That kinda went without saying, though apparently in your case it had to be said. Idiot.

It could attack US forces in Japan.

Not really. Oh yes.. they might pull off some specific attack, but then they'd get completely clobbered in response. They simply do not have the capacity or capability to pull off any large scale attack Other than a ground based attack across their land borders. An amphibious or air assault into Japan is out of the question. They might pull off one single sneak attack (Catching us with our pants down so to speak)doing negligible damage overall and suffer the loss of the planes doing it but after than we'd be on alert and no further attacks would be capable of succeeding.

It could attack the US Pacific Fleet.

Again.. see above.
They might pull off a single surprise attack against a single unit of the US Navy. Not because they snuck in and we did not know they were there. more like we knew they were there but did not expect them to attack. Military forces often pass in close proximity to each other, even unfriendly forces. It would be easy for them to make a known close pass to one of our ships and then suddenly attack without prior warning. The Military equivalent of a sucker punch. But that would be the end of it and within 48 hours the North Korean Navy would seize to exist.

Or it could attack mainland USA.

ROFLMAO!!!! HAAAHahahahaha...
Yeah... right.
Thanks for the laugh.
Lets tear that apart shall we..

1. Ballistic missiles. It is just a matter of time before it has ICBM's capable of reaching the USA direct, if not already. Current missiles could be fired from islands or ships closer to the USA.

North Korea does not have the ability to launch ICBMs from ships. Nor do they own or have access to "Islands closer to the US" The North Pacific is pretty sparse Island-wise and most all of them are owned by the Good 'Ol USA.

Current NorK Long range ICBM capabilities have them with a missile that could hit the Aleutian Islands (nothing there of note) And with a lot of luck and a strong tailwind () maybe... just maybe hit Hawaii.
And that is after the roughly 70% chance the damned thing explodes right on the pad.
Their CEP (Circular Error Probability) leaves a lot to be desired as well. Historically the Soviets always went with much larger Nuclear warheads than the USA. Why? Because their missiles were not as accurate. Our nukes, from half a planet away, would strike a specific city block. The Soviets would be glad just to hit the city, thus they used much larger nukes.

The North Koreans... even if the USA was within their range (not even close) they'd be lucky to hit the right state. And when that missile has nothing other than a conventional explosive warhead... not much of a real threat of than as a terror weapon, even less effective even if a great er range than Hitler's V2 program.

2. Troops smuggled into the USA on ships or aircraft.

ROFLMAO... Nope. Oh you can smuggle a small team of commandos in or something. but enough troops to put up a fight? No. Nor will you get all their TO&E smuggled in. A few hand weapons for a small group... but not the massive logistical set required for an invasion. It would be a token attack only.

3. Ship-bombs in US ports.I would not be surprised if North Korea hasn't already placed nuclear bombs in US ports.

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The North Koreans don't have fieldible Nukes.
They have managed to conduct exactly three tests. Each was technically a failure even though two of them did result in a nuclear chain reaction. They were still technically... Duds.

You need to grasp the concept of a "Test Device" vs an actual "weapon".
What they have exploded were three test devices.

these are something assembled by their scientists in the field under test/laboratory conditions, set up on a stand at a range and detonated in place in order to test their weapon design theories.

This is not something you can drop from a bomber, or strap into the nose of a missile. Nor even something portable enough to be smuggled in on a ship and set up and armed by some field agent.

And as I said... all tests to date have been duds.

The first Test was a complete dud. Resulting in a sub-kiloton yield of about 0.6 kt

The second managed to go off as a nuke but was a "fizzle" It failed to reach designed specifications and the critical mass literally blew itself apart before sustaining the high yield of a typical nuke. It's yield was 2 Kt.

The 3rd test was their best to date and resulted in a 4-6 kt yield. but was still for all intents and purposes a fizzle.

Every nation that has joined the Nuclear club, their first tests were on the order of 20+ kiloton yields. Mainly because a 20 something kiloton yield is the simplest easiest sort of nuke to make. You got enough nuclear material to have two parts come together and make a critical mass and "BOOM".

Scaling up is easy once you have a working design, until you get to about 150+ Kilotons. after that.. the two halves of radioactive material are themselves approaching critical mass and you would detonate just trying to assemble the weapon. After that you're talking Hydrogen bombs and nuclear fusion, not Fission. A whole 'nother set of technology to master.

To scale down from a 20 something kiloton yield also takes great skill, technology, and know how. Not something a fledgling nation still trying to develop a working design would have mastered. So their 2 Kt and 4-6 kt yields were not by design. Those sub optimal yields were not by design but rather by a failure of their weapon design.

Again... The NorKs do not have a working Nuclear weapon design.
They have enough material to create a handful of nuke had they the capability, and they are working on that capability. but they do not as of yet have a working design.

4. Submarines sinking US merchant ships.

LOL!!!!
The North Korean Navy is a joke. Even their subs. Again... like before, they would get away with one attack. then that sub would cease to exist within hours. withing the next 12 hours every NK Sub at sea would become a new artificial reef and within 48 hours, every sub in port would be destroyed pierside.

We have enough underwater sensor arrays that a NK Sub captain can't take a fart without our knowing it.
Again.. One suicidal sneak attack followed by complete destruction.

5. Cyber attacks. Already done.

OH my! A Hollywood film company got hacked..
It must be the end of the world!!!!
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Your IQ does not mean that you know anything about North Korea's military capabilities, or America's inability to counter them.

MY IQ never even came up in conversation, or are you so Effing stupid as to think the posts above concerning the AFQT score on the ASVAB was the same as an IQ score?

And while my IQ (which tested as 142 BTW) does not mean I know of North Korea's Military capability or the USA's ability to counter them... MY job and training in the US Navy did! The EW team also acts as the Threat briefing team apprising the CO of expected threats and enemy capabilities. It is we that assemble the Order of Battle and need to know the enemy's capabilities. While I am no longer in, I still have plenty of contacts and friends that are and I like to keep myself as up to date as possible (barring security restrictions).
So yeah... That DOES qualify me.
A hell of a lot more than an armchair commando idiot such as yourself.



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