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A present day white supremacist gets thrust back in time where the African Americans rule and the whites are enslaved


At what point in history is this present day white supremacist getting thrust back to where the African Americans rule and the Whites are enslaved? I must have been home from school ill the day the lesson about that was taught.

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Sounds interesting. I used to wonder what it would be like if the roles were reversed in an alternate racist timeline of history.

Apparently I'm not not alone in that wondering.

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There have been a few movies like that. White Man's Burden was one and there was another one recently.

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I know right! Maybe they did erase some history after all!

I'm gonna take a wild guess that this is supposed to read "thrust into an alternate reality."

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That's also what I thought (the alternate reality). I find this movie summary to be unclear.

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"North African pirates abducted and enslaved more than 1 million Europeans between 1530 and 1780 in a series of raids that depopulated coastal towns from Sicily to Cornwall, according to new research.

Thousands of white Christians were seized every year to work as galley slaves, labourers and concubines for Muslim overlords in what is today Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria and Libya, it is claimed.

Scholars have long known of the slave raids on Europe. But US historian Robert Davis has calculated that the total number captured - although small compared with the 12 million Africans shipped to the Americas in later years - was far higher than previously recognised.

His new book, Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters: White Slavery In The Mediterranean, The Barbary Coast, And Italy, 1500-1800, concluded that 1 million to 1.3 million ended up in bondage."

https://www.theguardian.com/guardianweekly/story/0,12674,1171347,00.html

It isn't total fiction. But, perhaps this movie is making the premise of it being an alternate America where blacks are the majority and whites are only 13% of the population. Who knows? lol

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This is super interesting. I didn't know any of it. Thanks !

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I wonder if any of their writings described "the white man" as inferior and sub-human or if they just abducted them out of convenience because Europe is close to North Africa.

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I think it probably started by pure convenience. If that's the case it would be interesting to find writings, like you suggest, that would explain if their dominance, over the years, made them look at these white prisoners as slaves and then purely as inferior beings.

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True. I mean, there are some cringe writings of black supremacists who claim that "black is a dominant trait, white is a recessive trait" and dumb shit like that.

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It's sad to say but there will always be people like that everywhere. Ignorance and insecurity are universal. No society is safe from it.

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I think there's a typo and it's supposed to be "forward in time". Going by the page image, there seems to be a modern or futuristic gun in his face.

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Could still be an alternate past where guns were invented sooner.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtF5THjCu0M

Seems you were right, after all. Here's the trailer.

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Jesus Christ all those dislikes. WTF! I think it looks interesting!

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So uhm...who exactly are we supposed to root for? Far as I can tell, there are zero protagonist.

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My guess would be....the slaves? lol

Slavery is cringe no matter what race does it.

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The other slaves sure, but the guy that was transported there is getting a big old helping of Karma, and he seems to be the main character.

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Good point. I guess it would be the equivalent of not feeling sorry for a black supremacist who gets a taste of his own medicine.

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Kind of like not feeling sorry for a rapist who gets thrown in jail, who also gets a "taste" of his own medicine. But then again, when things go round like that, the line gets blurry between right/wrong and it gets tougher to justify this whole eye-for-eye, karma, revenge thing.

But that's more realistic than the clean cut manichean view of the world that a lot of people find comfort in.

I wonder if this movie will go into such dept.

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True. But, there does come a time where the punishment is enough. After the rapist gets raped a whole bunch of times, there will come a point where he doesn't deserve it anymore and it wouldn't be fun to laugh at him anymore.

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Exactly... that's my whole point. And to reflect on that is what make related movies interesting (I'm assuming what the movie's going to be like... probably something I shouldn't do).

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I assume the nazi will see the error of his ways by the end of the movie. It's a redemption arc, maybe?

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I keep thinking "American History X" since I read the summary. The setting will be different enough but I hope the general idea is not just a rip off of AHX.

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So it's an alternate timeline/past. Ok I wonder why they still call the white people "crackas" in it? There doesn't seem to be much logic in that.

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