and reveal your intended methodology and means of repayment while under the influence of NZT48 if you've already quadrupled your money 4 days straight?
Adds unnecessary physical risk and he would have had 100K+ in 2 more days anyway.
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it was stupid- he would have been up to 100k in a few days anyway as you say.
it didnt add up.
they could have easily had a plot device to make it work though
say he found a trend and a subsequent trade that would only happen in a few hours time that would times his money by 20 odd- and then he borrowed 1 mill or something
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The story needed to touch on some overconfidence and imperfection. Would you have preferred the character to have been flawless and inhuman from the get-go? I think you would have been equally boggled. When you instantly go from a one-lunger to a 12 banger, controlling the self is extremely difficult and danger may seem laughable. An equally easy avenue of money (100k is a lot) might be irresistible. Perhaps it was a backup plan in case he befuddled his other earnings away. It is not like he was experienced.
shareThe audience shouldn't be smarter than the super genius.
Borrowing from a gangster made no sense at all.
He could have made that money in another couple of days. It took me out of the film.
Agreed, I really enjoyed the movie but that made no sense at all, it was clearly forced into the story line to create suspense. They should have thought of a better way to introduce the gangsters.
In the pace he was making money he would have been a millionare in a week anyway.
Again, a lot of you are missing the point of the borrowing of the money. That was more of a device to lay out the effects of NZT. NZT makes you hyper-focus. Ever been really focused? One of the things you lose is patience. He figured it would take him too long to get the amount he needed so he borrowed a large sum, thinking he would just pay it back. As we saw later in the movie, there were time lapses where he didn't know where he was or had been. Side effects. When he was off the drug, his memory was not functioning well. Side effects. It was a poorly executed plot device but it DID make sense. Many of you are focused on the money when it was really more about what the drug was doing to him.
shareAnd how exactly does that coincide with a 4 digit IQ? Didn't seem like an intelligent move to me, but then again, I only have a 3 digit IQ so what do I know :).
shareAnd how exactly does that coincide with a 4 digit IQ? Didn't seem like an intelligent move to me, but then again, I only have a 3 digit IQ so what do I know :).
You're right about intelligence not being wisdom but it clearly gave him some wisdom as well. It gave him access to all kinds of information he'd been subjected to during his life but had forgotten. That per definition has made him wiser. But it's like he was only wise sometimes and sometimes he was really stupid. But ye I guess the "1." answered that.
shareI agree, Christofferj16. When Eddie got into the fight in the subway, he remembered all kinds of moves from martial arts documentaries, boxing footage, Bruce Lee flicks and so on. When deliberately approaching a Russian mobster, I find it very unlikely he wouldn't get flashes of Scarface, Goodfellas, The Godfathers I, II and III, countless Stallone and Statham films dealing with the likes of Russian oligarchs and so on. The prevailing zeitgeist is very much, "run away, terribly fast".
The New York stock market has more money than any Russian mobster could dream of. Clever and legal would get him more money than stupid and illicit, every time. Consider Nick Leeson and Barings Bank. By sheer bad luck and a lack of scruples, he bankrupted a world-famous bank. In very little time, he ran up debts of over a billion pounds.
If Nick had had NZT 48, and the ability to exchange hunches for certainties (in the book, he makes his name shorting over-hyped companies that he knows are going to tank after the initial euphoria fades), we might know him as a fiscal genius instead of a talentless criminal.
The ability to spot patterns that the most eagle-eyed of analysts can't is potentially worth more than the wildest dreams of the most avaricious bread-head.
When you think that most of the richest people in the world are getting there by arbitrage involving hedged spreads of fractions of a percent in thousands of stocks, aided only by a computer, just think what you could do if you knew you'd win every time and could confidently bet the farm, unhedged, every time.
If Nick Leeson had had that (and he isn't by any means a stupid guy, so NZT would definitely help a lot), he could have ended up buying Barings instead of burying it.
$100k was absolute peanuts for Eddie Morra on NZT, especially when you add in the edge he got at poker (Binion's $Million, anyone?). In fact, if he'd set himself up as a top financial analyst for hedge firms, he'd have made that $100k in very short order. All above board, all legal. No need to hole himself up in a ludicrously expensive ex-drug-dealer's pad, no need to hire his own thugs, and so on.
I just cannot believe that he couldn't have got a $100k loan from a bank, regardless of the throwaway line of how they bould never lend to people like him (what? rich, successful financial tycoons on the up and up? what planet it this?).
Now, if he'd needed, say, $10m in a great hurry, I might understand it. But what did he do with the $100k that necessitated the all-fired hurry? If he'd waited a little longer and agreed to underwrite a BIG phamaco's losses for the next year, say, if they put all their brains to bear on recreating NZT sans side-effects (after having made a mint on the stock market to back up his credentials), no questions asked or answered, I suspect they would have drawn up the necessary non-disclosure agreements and so on in a serious hurry, and Eddie could hire the tricksiest lawyer (as he did anyway) to vet them, I don't see the issue. I'm sure safeguards could have been drawn up to ensure the IP didn't go public. Technology companies often get bugs sorted out by other companies that are legally prevented from recreating the technology, so it must be possible.
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Noting in that long post contradicts the fact that he was prone to reckless behavior before the drug and that this simple act of recklessness out of being impatient is a logical enough explanation for why he did what he did.
shareI just don't buy the idea that doubling up at the stock-market wasn't quick enough. If he'd started with one cent, continuous doubling up would have seen him on $167,772 by day 25. By the end of the first month, he'd have been over $10m
Add in the lucrative poker games and so on, and the deal with Gennady looks less foolish and more laughably asinine.
NZT showed him all the pathways and the potential drawbacks of each scheme. I can't buy that he couldn't do simple maths that anyone with a normal three-digit IQ could do.
Now, I can suspend disbelief and still enjoy the film. But he was reckless, not suicidal. Did you even see him invest any of Gennady's money? No, you did not.
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It's also interesting why he neglected to return the money and avoid further trouble, something that should have been simple enough.
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Gennady would have given Eddie an amount of time to pay the money back, but when that time came, life had taken a bad turn and he was off the NZT. At least, that's how I took it.
Also, if Eddie had shown up a couple of days later with all the money plus the interest, Gennady would have never left him alone.
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Yeah it's stupid. It's probably because the writers had no understanding of exponential growth.
In Fantasy Roleplaying, the rule is, "if your character doesn't know, you don't know".
This is inverse roleplaying!
The restitution of life is no great feat. A variety of deaths may well enter into your punishment
Hahaha yeah exactly that :P
shareAs Eddie himself says in the movie:
"We're wired to overreach...No one's stopping and thinking, 'Hey, we're doing pretty well. We got France, we got Poland, we got a big Swiss bank account... You know what? Let's not invade Russia in the winter, let's go home, let's pop a beer and let's live off the interest.'"
I always thought it was intended to kind of drive home that point (even though he made it after borrowing the money). Even on the drug, Eddie is still victim to things like that.
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One could be using 1000% the other 2000%.. 10000% could be the max.. or sideways 8 in GB..
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One could be using 1000% the other 2000%.. 10000% could be the max.. or sideways 8 in GB..
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