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Obligatory recap

posted a year ago by SolarisPatchwork (298)
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Of the first movie, and Furiosa's fate:
>Be me, Mad Max
>Escape with King's breeding-concubines (kept safe to try and breed unmutated humans) and his most trusted warrior, Furiosa Road
>She reveals she stole a tanker filled with the most valuable resource, water. Sick
>First thing she does is dump a bunch of it because the concubines are bitching about being dirty. wtf
>Travel to promised land, where a functioning society will take us in
>Turns out the society's women took over
>The women murdered their husbands, brothers, and sons
>Now they just wait around for men they can rape and murder
>These crazy old women act like that's a good thing
>Turn around, head back to King's land
>"He's, like, really mean. He doesn't let us have enough water, and he kills lots of people. Help me kill him."
>I say my first line of dialogue: "k"
>Help Furiosa fight him
>We kill like 50 of his men, who were basically slaves like her. She doesn't really care, though.
>She installs herself as queen and appoints concubines into positions of power
>Their first act is to dump the reserves of their life-giving water onto the dirty soil
>They giggle and watch the peasants wallow around in mud
>They act like this is some triumphant, declarative statement about their suitability as leaders
>I shake my head and turn around, knowing they'll be dead within a year
>Realize that all those deaths are on my hands, because I didn't kill Furiosa, enslave the witless concubines, and make the hard decisions that would've led to their people having some hope at life
>"Oh cool, a scorpion. That's totally badass."
>Eat it.

[–] moviechatterer (16322) 10 months ago

well thats one way of looking at it

[–] DavidM (908) 10 months ago

So Inmortal Joe was the good guy, you say?

[–] SolarisPatchwork (298) 10 months ago

*A* good guy? No. *THE* good guy? Sure. But in those circumstances there isn't exactly room for a paragon of virtue.

[–] DavidM (908) 10 months ago

The good guy having several woman slaved and hundreds of people starved and thirsty? No, you are wrong.

[–] SolarisPatchwork (298) 10 months ago

What is it you propose he could've done better? We see two alternatives in the movie, which I outlined above, and they're much, much worse.

[–] DavidM (908) 9 months ago

There was enough water for everyone, as stated in the movie,and Inmortan Joe was leaving that little stream of water to the people to have them subjugated. So you are wrong, he is the only tyrant of the story and Furiosa and company are liberating the people from the Citadel.

Also, he was keeping people prisioner, which de facto makes him worse, or are you in favor of slavery?

[–] SolarisPatchwork (298) 9 months ago

The movie showed that a single tanker's worth of water was such a precious commodity that it was treated like gold. There clearly wasn't enough water to just be dumping it on the ground to evaporate. They were dumping a tanker's worth every minute or so. That'd be like telling all the poor people in a country they'd be rich now, then burning a palette of $1B in front of them.

>Also, he was keeping people prisioner, which de facto makes him worse, or are you in favor of slavery?

In the context of a post-apocalyptic humanity, I'm in favor of survival and freedom, in that order. The world of Mad Max made it clear that slavery was necessary for survival, which reflects what we know from history.

[–] DavidM (908) 9 months ago

Well, you are wrong in two things: first of all, even in a survival scenario freedom goes always the first. A life being a slave isn't worthy, but I guess you don't understand that.

Second, the movie explicitily states that Inmortan extracts ilimitated water from the the ground. The cargo of the truck is so valuable because they were sending it to other city where there wasn't water, but in the Citadel is stated that there are ilimitated water and Inmortan was cutting it to maintain the people subjugated.

So I am sure the resources could be distributed in a better way that what Inmortan Joe (and the final scene with all the water falling is just a symbolism for victory, for God's sake) did and organize that society without slaves, or at least Furiosa and company could try, but it looks you are aggresively biased agains ¿the women? ¿the workers? ¿the freedom? Or maybe you are agains communism (I am too, anyway) and what happens in the movie makes you remember a communism revolution. It could be (we don't see what happens afterwards, Furiosa could become another tyrant), but first I am against tyrans caciques.

Even in a post apocalyptic scenario, any power change is good.

[–] Rorikon (18380) 9 months ago

This is like watching a Democrat and a Conservative debate which living method is better.

[–] Rorikon (18380) 9 months ago

>These crazy old women act like that's a good thing

As opposed to the opposite which is a more likely scenario in the real world?