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Unrealistic money numbers


1. He was making 110k + bonus before he got fired.

2. He had 850k house (that looked to actually be worth about 2M) and drove Porsche.

2 is impossible to afford with 1.



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I didnt see the movie at all, so take this with a grain of salt.

I think what the movie tries to show by throwing these numbers at you is to not only show the greed of corporations but to show how some, if not many, are living outside their means of their income. 110k plus is enought to support a family and also maintain some savings but what they are showing is how people can not be responsible with money. Much like people owning homes they cannot afford in theory as well.

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You are right on. Very much agree.

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I didnt see the movie at all, so take this with a grain of salt.


It would take a kilo of salt for me to take seriously a post from someone who has not seen this movie.

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Really?

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You're right!
The numbers don't make sense on the face of it.

However, I used to ride the train in to NYC with 4 younger men who worked in "finance". From their conversations, I'd say that they were on a level with Ben Affleck's charcter. Same things - big house, fast car, country club.

One by one each of the 4 disappeared from the train.

The movie may have exaggerated to emphesize the situation, but they got the point across.

I felt sorry for Phil (Chris Cooper). Not only was he downsized after 30 years, the woman at the search service effectively told him that much of his experience didn't count.

BTW I would have hit the "cheerleader" at the same service square in the face in that "motivational" session. I know many self-starters who don't take to the motivational speakers.

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"I felt sorry for Phil (Chris Cooper). Not only was he downsized after 30 years, the woman at the search service effectively told him that much of his experience didn't count."

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It's not that his experience didn't count, it's just that his applications may be dismissed early due to his nearing retirement age. Americans society is very superficial and most people in it form opinions based on "surface", not the "substance". American capitalists, similarly, would be the happiest with the workforce consisting of only 22-year-old zombies with no lives and families, who are willing to slave 10+ hrs. a day for a crack at so-called "career", which in itself consists of 12 hour working days that can temporarily sustain the continuing cycle of life of debt acquired to possess things that we don't need.

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its sad that the very system that prevents him to consider retirement around the age he normally should is the same that is keeping him out of work for fear of his pending retirement. I work in human resources and it should be called corporate resources.

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its sad that the very system that prevents him to consider retirement around the age he normally should is the same that is keeping him out of work for fear of his pending retirement. I work in human resources and it should be called corporate resources.


Yes it is sad that too often older people are left on the employment scrap heap when they still have plenty to offer.

But I felt that Phil Woodward was basically Bobby Walker about 20 years later. A guy that had been in the work force for years, worked his way up from a lowly position on the shop floor in the beginning and had a highly paid position but pretty much spent everything he earned. He had plenty of time to put something aside for his retirement and didn't do it and he chose to live beyond his means instead.

It is not his employer's responsibility to provide for hs retirement.

When I said I wanted to be a comedian, they all laughed at me. Well, they're not laughing now!

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I caught that, too, HBL, although those bonuses were probably pretty generous (near the end of the movie, he described $80,000 as "half what I was making").

The numbers might have worked in a lower-cost area, but in Boston even a guy earning $160,000 would have a hard time affording that lifestyle, especially such a nice house in what I'm sure was a very nice suburb.

First of all, I think we were supposed to see the family as living beyond their means. They had basically no cushion at all and apparently had significant credit card debt.

Also, I think the filmmakers deliberately understated his income because they didn't think people would be sympathetic to someone earning a lot of money. As some of the threads on this board demonstrate, there are people who think that, if you make a good salary, you're apparently not entitled to sympathy if you lose your job. That problem would only be worse if they had given the character the income a RL version would probably have had.

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He could have been leading the Posche.
He could have lived in a commuter community so his house would have been that expensive.
The wife was very conscious of being on a budget, since he was a workaholic she probably did
all the budgeting and knew more about where they were.
I did not find it that unrealistic, there are a lot of people who live in the edge like that, it's
scary, because that is what our society tells people to do - go shopping, buy, buy, buy!
My neighbor has a Porsche like that I think he said it was between 50-60K.

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That is what I couldn't figure out. YOu cannot live in an 850,000 on that salary. I don't care WHERE you live, and they lived in Boston one of the more expensives areas....East coast???

She did mention the AmEX bill so obviously they were over charging.

Was this movie written 10- years ago and they just never updated it?
That part about the X-box being taken back was stupid.

And no one plays with Xbox anymore, it is now Xbox 360!! and KInect.

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maybe YOU need to get with the times; no one calls it "xbox360" anymore; they call it an xbox, and the old xbox's are now called "old xbox"

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Some bonuses can be double or triple the base, particularly in sales and marketing. But I think he said $80,000 would be half what he was making, so $160,000 could be the ball park figure.

Also he was underwater with his house. Typically he was probably using the house as an ATM machine. As the house appreciated, he just refinanced and took out more equity. Everyone knows real estate never goes down because they aren't making anymore.



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That's the point the movie was clearly making. They were living far beyond their means.

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He was in sales and he didn't mention what his "incentives" were. He might have been downplaying them, but it wouldn't have been uncommon for a regional sales director to double his base or maybe more. Of course, he was living an aspirational lifestyle...based on what he expected to make.

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