Unlikeable women


The thought process of those women is alien to me. They meet two men, who aren't interested in raping, killing, torturing, or stealing from, them, and what do they do? They screw THEM over not once, but TWICE. On top of that, they never showed remorse for their actions later on. Never mind the fact that both are able bodied, and at least one of them can handle himself in a fight.

How these characters were supposed to be likeable is beyond me.

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You are absolutely correct, given what we actually see happen. But we can probably assume that these women have had bad experiences in the recent past, and have switched into "stay alive at all cost" mode. Much like the main character. I think I can forgive them.

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From what i've seen, they were scamming people before the apocalypse.

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Yeah, I don't care for Witchita at all. I liked Little Rock fine. She was just following her older sister's example. I always thought that they would still be likely to up and leave Tallahassee and Columbus high and dry (along with all their ammo, truck, etc) when it suited their fancy. Hope Columbus doesn't get to comfortable with the relationship because I don't think it would last. I also wouldn't trust Witchita as far as I could throw her (which isn't far). Witchita is totally likely to be gone one morning with all the provisions and the truck. Or if they run across any other survivors who are younger men, I could totally see Witchita ditching Columbus for the new guy. And yes, I do think there are probably other survivors.

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From what i've seen, they were scamming people before the apocalypse.

Exactly. It's their only survival tactic, because it's the only one they know. The movie doesn't explain what happened to their parents but I was under the impression that the girls had been on their own and looking out for each other and only each other, for a long time. And when the zombie apocalypse hit they figured since their tactic had gotten them that far, they would keep using it. I actually think this movie makes an interesting point. In Melancholia Lars Von Trier explored the idea that melancholic/cynical people deal with the end of the world better than others because they adapted and learned to survive in that environment long before everyone else, and Zombieland says something similar. When zombies overrun the earth, it's the loners, liars and people whose minds are a little askew that have the best chance of surviving, because they've always looked out for themselves. I didn't find the girls unlikable; in fact, I thought their characters were quite real. Maybe it's just because I would probably do the same thing in a zombie apocalypse. I mean some people think it's better to pool your resources and fight as a group, but there are also some who think it's better to look out for themself because at the end of the day, you're the only one you can 100% rely on and trust. So I totally understood where Wichita was coming from - hell, even Columbus had a similar rule of not trusting others. Because not only can you make the mistake of trusting the wrong person, but you end up caring, and caring just impairs you ability to do what's necessary. When you get attached you lose objectivity, and you start doing things that put yourself at risk. It seems selfish, but in an apocalypse, that's the only way you can ensure your own survival.


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I agree with you 100%, Screen Queen. That was what I gathered from Wichita and Little Rock's behavior. I really liked them like I did the other two main characters, because characters shouldn't have to goody two-shoes and heroic 24/7 in order to be interesting or compelling. Another bit of criticism I see often is that the two girls were stupid in their goal of going to Pacific Playland (and to go at night). Thing is, to them, going there was their way of coping with the end of times. The theme park was probably one of fond memories for them and they wanted to have one last bit of fun there before having to go back to living day-to-day. It was unfortunate that the zombies did arrive, though, but it was predictable since it was a movie. In the end, the two learned to trust more and open themselves to the idea of expanding their family. This is what character development is, people, when characters go on an emotional journey and grow/change due to the experiences they went through in the story.

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you are 100% wrong. those girls were stupid because they turned on all the freaking rides and didn't think twice that the zombies would notice. you can't get anymore dimwitted than that. i don't care what the hell they've ''been'' through. they were evil scamming *beep* and they deserved to die.




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Hm?

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Bump.

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Can you name some well written female characters?

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In which fictional medium: television, film, or both?

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Screen_Queen, I don't think so. As I saw it, those guys kept saving their asses over and over and they didn't even deserve it.


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Man, I love their tough, mischievous ways. Wichita reminded me of a young version of Dana Delaney's character in Tombstone. Very attractive--I totally understand why Columbus fell for her. Not to mention, she was EXACTLY what he needed.

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Leaving people in a position where death is far more likely sure is "mischievous".

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You may be taking the film too seriously

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blessedcursor, she was all that was available. LOL

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They actually screwed them over THREE times. If you include the time where they stole a car from Bill Murray's house and left without telling them so. But yes, I do agree with you, I really hated those two characters! They really got under my skin.

Not only are the two girls unlikeable, and they're backstabbing, two faced, manipulative, lying and ungrateful thieves, but they're *beep* idiots! Did they really expect zombies to NOT attack when they activated the lights at Zombieland?! The brightness of those lights would attract numerous zombie hordes from hundreds of miles away!
Why were they so surprised when zombies started attacking? Did they really believe that zombieland was a magical place where NO zombies can possibly enter?!

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In all fairness, they didn't kick them out of the Hummer when they could have.

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by - Captain_Wesker on Thu Dec 29 2011 21:03:51
The thought process of those women is alien to me. They meet two men, who aren't interested in raping, killing, torturing, or stealing from, them, and what do they do?

In the weeks after the apocalypse they already met men who tried raping, killing, torturing, or stealing from them, so they are suspicious and trust no one anymore. And statistically 99% of all rapings are committed by men.

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But, you have to remember how they even met Columbus and Tallahassee. They were in the back of the grocery store and they didn't even have to show there faces to them. It's not like the two guys knew they were there. They were just looking for Twinkies. They could have just hidden themselves until they went away. No excuses for how they constantly screwed the guys over.

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In the weeks after the apocalypse they already met men who tried raping, killing, torturing, or stealing from them


They did? It's not unlikely, but I don't recall this explicitly shown in the film.

so they are suspicious and trust no one anymore.


Y'see, here's the thing: neither of our protagonists tried to harm the women in any way, even after being betrayed once, so they (the women) really don't have an excuse for again betraying those who, in fact, were very accommodating.

And statistically 99% of all rapings are committed by men.


Did you pull that number 100% out of your ass?

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by - Captain_Wesker on Thu Mar 22 2012 16:06:22
They did? It's not unlikely, but I don't recall this explicitly shown in the film.

Yeah, but not always everything has to be mentioned explicitly in a movie.
Or to say it in the German phrase: Nur weil etwas nicht ausdrücklich erwähnt wurde, heißt es nicht, dass es nicht dennoch möglich ist.

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Sure, but you sounded like you were stating a fact.

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The real number is roughly 70-80% of crimes are committed by men, including sex crimes.

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99% of rapes are from men? did you just pull that one out of your ass?




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well considering how stupid the male leads are they kinda have it coming...

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Yes trying to help people in need while the world is going to crap is the perfect sign of stupidity. A true genius would obviously just have shot them.

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No, that would have been a waste of ammo, they should have just left them there.

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I will never understand the idiocy of those who make movies when they add irritating bitches like this to movies with potential to be awesome. Adding them kills morale for repeated viewing of said movie. It's one thing to add women to the storyline, but to make them infuriating to watch is a no go. It doesn't make for good comedy and only a *beep* idiot would think it does!. And that must be those who made the movie then!.

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Borp.

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Exactly.

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I would have shot those bitches in the first time they screwed me over. I would not give them any remorse just because they have vaginas.

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I didn't like this movie the first time I saw it but it was on last night so I watched a little of it to see if it was as bad as I thought.......and it was.

Those girls are idiots. Really, just unlikeable idiots. I would have left them at that damn park.

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I don't know if I would have gone that far, but i'd have left them at the first instance of actual safety.

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Yorp.

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