The humans' sophistication


So for generations they hid underground and propagated education and sophisticated knowledge. Mae (Nova) is able to smoothly use technology and weaponry etc, like she was not hidden from it in a primitive environment. Even for a fantasy scenario like a world overtaken by apes, there is a lot that is too much to believe here. Did I miss something?

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You missed two things.

1. We don't actually know anyone has been underground "for generations". We just saw people living isolated, underground in that bunker in this film. We know nothing of their backstory.

2. Mae wasn't even necessarily part of that group. She was literally sealed off from them. Hence the exchange with the woman wearing a hazmat suit outside their facility. So, similarly, we know nothing of her backstory.

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Yes, I did not miss number 2 here, I don't think the film implied she is part of that group - although at first I thought, if she knows exactly what disk drive to get, maybe she is like on a mission for this group. Otherwise how does she know exactly what is needed to make the satellite comms functional? If she is not part of that group, she knew just where to go and they were expecting her.

About your point number 1, I guess I'm thinking that Mae could not just be part of some group of humans living in the wild if she has this level of sophisticated capability. Not like your mother can tell you tales of the collapsed human civilization well enough for you to just know what you're doing when you see a facility like that for the first time.

Anyway, just felt like too big of a plot hole, maybe a subsequent sequel can shed more light.

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Yeah, I agree - it seems like Mae and whomever else she was with, before they were killed, were on a mission for that group.

The satellite comms thing was a bit of a macguffin I guess - Why wouldn't it have been there in the first place and how would that group know where a replacement part would be?

Also agree that sequels may delve more into where Mae came from, if not that group.

I guess the fact that we saw that gun behind her back shows she wasn't entirely open / honest with Noa, so who knows to what extent.

Given her intact, modern clothing, it'd still be possible to write her as the lone survivor of a space team (maybe the one teased in Rise) when they'd come back to earth. Time dilation or offspring of the original crew.

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Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Someone from the Icarus

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It's just a retcon

the previous trilogy showed humans devolving completely, many years earlier

the new trilogy simply had to undo that, in order to provide a believable human threat

it doesn't make any sense, but it doesn't really need to

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I wouldn't say there's any retcon.

We had a virus in Rise which killed a load of humans.

We see the immune to death survivors in Dawn.

We see a mutation of the virus, causing muteness and brain scrambling of those initial survivors in War.

But we have no information that the mutated virus didn't just act like the original virus in Rise by effecting a sizeable but not all percentage of those Dawn survivors.

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nah, it was implied that all humans were dumb now

( or soon to be )

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That's like saying it was implied at the end of Rise that all humans were going to die...

There was nothing telling us this one way or the other.

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nah, every human shown already had the dumb virus or was being exposed to it

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Exactly the same as the end of Rise.

Besides, even the main human character asides the Colonel in War, is shown as being mute but not dumb...

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People were dumbing down slowly. Virus mutated I think.

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Yes, I said that further up:-

The virus that killed people but left others intact mutated to one which made people mute and dumb.

However, there is no basis to assume that it was any different from the original virus in that it didn't infect every human...

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Every virus can have immune people. Previous movies didn't touch this.

This Mae woman and her tribe and that guy on the boat could be just immune.

I actually liked this new thing. They simply could not bring People From Space From The Past for third time. But they need humans in movies. So they created these immune people.

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Yep. It was weird. She is not from underground. Or left it long time ago and somehow was immune to stupidness. Which makes more sense. She was way too smart for human living in a tribe with other " talking humans". She looked like a human from modern society.

She knew how to get into a bunker, how to switch lights, how to open bunker from inside. How to get that McGuffin and how to shoot. She was very sure and its not like she was told by other bunker people to do so. She KNEW.

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The ending of the movie with the underground bunker destroyed the movie.

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