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Mostly liked it, but two things bothered me (spoilers)


What I liked, especially compared to most assassin movies lately (Bullet Train, John Wick etc) is that the hitman takes his work very seriously and it is not some kind of joke that many people are participating in. All those hitman movies where there are hundreds of people who are in some kind of cool universe of assassins - I find annoying. I like the hitman movies where the mundane tasks like waiting are emphasized.

Anyway, two things bugged me, one minor one major.

1, the minor thing: the fake names he uses are all well known (at least by Americans) television characters, and this really violates the 'stay under the radar' principle that he illustrates early in the film. He makes a point of how important it is to blend in, not stick out, yet he uses these aliases that are very likely to ring bells with people. I get the running joke, but it is very incongruous to the character. (The car rental or hotel receptionist could easily tell some investigator, "yeah actually one person did catch my attention, his name was Archie Bunker" etc)

2, the major thing: he made a mistake in the execution of his work, and he knows the consequences. He goes on a revenge odyssey starting with his handler, the secretary, the subcontractors all the way up to the client - only to spare him. If anyone "crossed the line" for him to seek retribution, possibly the "brute" is the only one. Everyone else played their part in the industry that is his chosen profession. In short, he didn't have the justification to burn anyone else. Maybe the Brute, but not the others.

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1. I thought so too, but then I realized he's going to different countries and no one would be able to catch on unless he was going back to the same airport.

2. He did have a "no sympathy" rule which is probably why he killed everyone. However, I don't know why he let the last one live.

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Was the ending supposed to imply that he considered retiring by sitting back on chair too or am I overthinking as yeah ending felt full with him deciding to let millionaire live.

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You could be right. Honestly I have no idea why he let him live.

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My sense was that he knew killing the millionaire dude would be likely to lead to someone coming after him. It's one thing to discreetly kill hired killers, and a middleman who employs them, without raising any eyebrows, but killing that guy would certainly attract him unwanted attention. He made his point, and ended the entire payback sequence. The people who caused the retaliation against him are all dead. The millionaire clearly went along with what the lawyer suggested, and had no ill well towards him, and no reason to pursue anything further. He didn't know that until he got there, but he believed the guy's confession, and he squashed the entire thing.

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Fassbender did mention how easy it was to get into his house and find him, so I'm not 100% convinced he was scared about retaliation. The rich guy was actually the one who seemed less prepared than everyone else.

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If he had shot him then yes, big investigation and it would be clear that he was murdered... but he could have just as easily strangled him and made it look like auto-erotic mishap, or tossed him out the window for suicide or banged his head and made it look like he fell in the bathroom and hit his head... There was really no reason to let the last guy live. The last guy may not have known what he was doing when he said clean it up but that was what caused the killers problems so he would have been a very reasonable target.

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Maybe, but it seemed that it could only cause problems for him, while doing nothing positive for him. I think he primarily went there to ascertain if the guy was a threat, and worth the risk of killing, or not.

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I have already read other people comenting this same thing, but that is explained in the movie, in the plane he say (or think) something like the more money has the "target" the more the police work to find the assassin, he even doubt for a second to do something against the rich guy for tis very reason, and them say fuck it, he dint kill him because is too hot, he would have to dissapear forever after kill someone like that guy, no because he has a change of heart and choose to change his life, in the end he has a tic in his eyes (during the one of the many line) implying that he cant leave in peace for too much time, he is going back to kill soon or later, again the reason to let the guy live is imply in the plane scene.

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I don't think anything would have happened if he killed the last guy. He seemed like he was the easiest to get to. There were no cameras, no security guards, no witnesses. Who would have went after Fassbender?

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Those comparition are unfair, those movies are fictional more comic book type, this movie (even when is a comic book adaptation) has a more "realistic" approach.

John Wick and Bullet train has nothing to do with the killer they are in diferent leagues, a more fair comparisson would be Collateral or even Ronin another great Thriller

That being said

1, that is pretty silly is pretty lame when movies go against their own logic just for an easy joke

2, He go against all the people involve, they almost kill his girlfriend, the handler put everything on motion and the other two excuted the plan, has perfect sense he go against everybody.

I think the movie has another real problem and is that he never called his grilfriend to prevent her, that really bother me, and wasent necessary from a narrative perspective because he could call her she runs the bad guys go to the house dont find her and burn the place, our protagonist knows he is in danger and go against them, and we still have our movie but I think he made this msitake because the director want to give us something to empathize more with the character and make look his motivation less selfish, for that reason he gives us this girl almost desfigured, and now we can see more humanity in him and we are more confortable falling him and supporting him in his revenge.

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1. He travelled a lot abroad, where almost no one knows what those aliases mean.
2. He killed his middleman to find out who was sent to kill him ( the 2 subcontractors). He died to fast though . The secretary could identify him so she had to go too. The brute and the q tip were sent to kill him. They were trying to find out where he is so they tortured his girlfriend. When he killed them both it wasn't ( only) revenge, they were paid professionals that had a job: to kill him. So they had to go too. The millionaire could easily hire other hitmen to try and kill him, but he preferred to "reason" with him as he's very rich and well known so his death would definitely be followed by a thorough investigation. The killer himself said: the police's effort increases proportionally to the victim's fortune. Plus it looked like he wanted out, not to be on the run his entire life. Although I think he might still be...

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Not killing the "client" just sets up the sequel.

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For the fake names, I noticed the Sam Malone alias was for a Massachusetts license (the state where Cheers takes place). I agree that the gag was not worth it.

As for assassinating the billionaire... a camera caught his face. If he killed the guy, it would have generated international headlines and he'd be on everyone's radar. I don't think there would be any familial vengeance for killing a rich, greedy guy -- rich, greedy heirs would be relieved. So would the competition.

Given the logic of sparing the billionaire, I don't know why he killed The Expert; I'd think she would be entitled to professional courtesy. I suppose he was coming unglued. His face twitches at the end, which is probably a callback to the beginning when he missed the sniper shot. Alternatively, it could suggest he may have been poisoned in a manner he threatens against the billionaire (radioactive speck on favorite coffee mug). He did drink from her glass, and she inferred he had been worried about poison. The Expert also warned that when his time comes, he'd be thinking of her.

The Killer should have alerted his significant other that the job went sideways and she should get to their safe house. I don't know how she survived.

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As a European, most of the fictional names were lost on me. I looked them up afterwards and should have caught more of them than I did. For example, I said 'Ah, of course' at Archie Bunker, because I knew in the back of my mind that Bunker was the American remake version of the British Alf Garnett, but only as the answer to a trivia question. Never seen that show.

Never seen The Partridge Family, The Bob Newhart Show, All in the Family, The Mary Tyler Moore Show... &c. Have seen The Odd Couple (the film, not the show) but it was a long time ago and I wouldn't have remembered those character names. They're just Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau in my mind.

So, yeah, I think an American could travel around abroad using those names without raising an eyebrow... with the possible exception of Sam Malone. But he does seem to use a lot of them in the USA, so your point in a valid one.
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The whole point of the movie was that he was breaking his rules. I thought that was one part of the bear story. Taking things personally and not being dispassionate.

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“ Everyone else played their part in the industry that is his chosen profession”

The client too.

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