"Shotor, I don't have to do either of those things."
Just as I can and have the right to post my opinion on your poting strategy.
And again, I strongly suggest you to stop question begging and answer the challenges your are posed with. Otherwise you're hypocrite. You sure can post your take on something, but when you're challenged on it, all you do is go on in circular argument without any concrete proof; rather your personal opinion. And for someone who discusses his opinion to be the actual intent of the movie, you appear to offer the very minimal at best. And what's worse, when people challenge you on this, you reply with this 'civil' yet condecending tone that is both belitteling the person asking you the question, and at the same time ridiculing that somehow you're even above the question. So pardon me to be one of those few who call you on your B.S. So the way I see it, you can either try to answer the challenges better, admit that this is only your opinion and a theory as oppposed to the actual movie intent, or don't post on that regard at all. Or at least when you do, or answer a question, don't try to sneak in your philosphical take on this movie. And of course, you don't have to do either, but that would result with you affirming everything that I have said here.
"I was trying to start a conversation with someone else, when you intruded"
A. The other poster is free to reply whenever he/she feels like it.
B. I waited enough time before posting my opinion.
C. This is a public discussion board, so 'intruding' by default is something you wish to use against me and my mannerism... Rest assure, I don't care.. And I disagree that it was intruding. As it is no less than you posting your opinion on a post answering someone else's post. So yeah, you're a hypocrite by the way, for intruding.
"apparently for the purpose of telling me to shut up."
My purpose is never to shut you up. It is to get you admit your shortcomings, which you constantly fail at, even though that they're painfully obvious. If part of doing so involves me telling you to shut-it, then so be it. But that is not my goal.
"I also love how you order me to stop discussing my religion, and then declare that since I won't discuss my religion with you, I should not post at all."
I don't recall arguing that. I stated against your post, which declared that Christine did more evil by chosing evil to fight the curse, with reasoning that at that time it was her most viable curse, as the movie presented. And therefore, as vile as she may appear in those last hours of her life, she is not a wicked or an evil person, nor deserves her faith. After all, that is what the argument is about, and so is the thread, is it not? So yeah, you tell me how is religion has anything to do with this, and how does your religion fit here anyway. I believe it does not, and in fact, it does not, so it has no room here, which is why I deem it irrelevant.
"If you want to know more, do a google search. Try "blood of the lamb", "lamb of god", "blood atonement"."
What you don't get is that external research on this matter, nor Lamia is irrelevant here as Raimi himself comments that he took liberty with the source material. So even if San is chanting something... the fact that it was not elaborated in the movie to its extent, deems it irrelevant and inadmissible as proof to anything you're trying to prove, IN THIS MOVIE!
Live with it.
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nystulc
14 years ago
> What you don't get is that external research on this matter, nor Lamia is
> irrelevant here as Raimi hinself comments that he took liberty with the
> source material.
He was talking about the source material for the Lamia.
> So even if San is chanting something... the fact that it
> was not elaborated in the movie ...
Fair enough. The religious references are not translated or otherwise explained to the non-Spanish or to the non-Christian. And you do not want them to be. And you are not interested. And that is perfectly fine.
Conversation over. I hope.
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Phanatic77
14 years ago
"He was talking about the source material for the Lamia.
In specific words, yes. However, it's very obvious that it expands to everything else. The black arts, the curses, the blessings... they're obviously not real. There are maybe ones that are close in intent, but not the same. So the same goes to this one quote which he used, yet did not elaborate on. Which means very little in movie plot content wise. He did not elaborate enough on this..
"Fair enough."
If it is fair, then you should not add a snide sidebar comment like the below (which I'll comment on), and then expect the conversation to be over. Let's just how much wrong I can find in it.
"The religious references are not translated or otherwise explained to the non-Spanish or to the non-Christian. And you do not want them to be."
First off, they ARE NOT. However, you assume that I don't want them to because they might not support my argument? Seriously? Give it up, I'm not that petty. They're not translated because they have minimal relevance or implication on the plot and story.
"And you are not interested. And that is perfectly fine."
Actually that won't be fine if I argue against them. That would be ignoring facts. However, I would be interested if they were relevant, which you have yet to establish (and no saying that they are and supporting so with you circular logic is not proof.) However, since they are not, then no, I have very little interest.
"Conversation over. I hope."
If you wish it to be over, don't hope, just stop spewing nonsense.
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