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Confused Regarding the Ending of Episode 3.

posted 2 years ago by Jeepster (1167)
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Need some clarity here for someone to explain a couple of things to me regarding the way the events unfolded left me confused at the end of the episode.

King Viserys finally sends his brother Daemon help in the way of troops to usurp the crabfeeder. Ok, they get down there, the vasals/messengers what have you, they give Daemon the message, he reads it & promptly responds by bashing the poor guys head in for a bit. HUH? I’m confused by that one. What was he angry at? That his brother finally sent help & that he didn’t want it?

The only explanation I can think of is Corlys did tell him that they’d have to earn their respect & their place being second sons & all that they’d have to make everyone take notice of what they did, not who they were. Maybe he regretted his brother ruining his chances of doing that by helping, I’m not sure it’s just a guess but again why be enraged by it?

Never mind the fact that before this scene even took place, Corlys’s clan were discussing Daemon, amongst themselves. Seems like they planning to hurt or kill him, I’m not sure but what was wrong & why would they? They said something about things not going well & needing to sacrifice “flesh” meaning his. So what was the plan? To have him killed so the crabfeeder might withdraw? Why he would I have no idea but I”m not sure what their intent was. Did they need someone as bait to draw out the rest of the crabfeeders forces? Because as they were saying, they only withdrew into caves where no one could touch them & this went on for awhile it seems so everyone else were frustrated.

When Daemon landed he looked like he knew what the deal was, & some of those guys looked like they were ready to make a move against him. Lord Corlys who knew better luckily stopped them. It seems like this is what Daemon wound up doing anyway, at the end but I wonder if he was forced or asked or volunteered, etc. I”m not sure what the problem was. This part of the show I didn’t understand. If HOTD was a book first, then maybe that explains what is going on.

[–] MartyDeniro (4185) 2 years ago

B/c he didn't want it, but it served as an unintentional wake-up call, where he'd rather take that big risk to settle it than wait for big bro's help. That statement he was manipulated into making wasn't working using his preferred strategy. He was flailing, so he accepted a different strategy to resolve it before that help arrived. That was my take.

[–] Quasimodo (16388) 2 years ago

Daemon was desperate and sometimes you just have to roll the hard six !

[–] Spiffy666 (400) 2 years ago

He wanted the victory to be his own and not his brother's. He was willing to risk his life to win before his brother's reinforcements could get there and do it. Thought that was obvious.

The problem with the ending was the idiocy of his one-man charge. Squads of archers can't hit a single target, wave after was of soldiers go at him one at a time and lose. Pure stupidity.

A little suspension of disbelief is fine. But that scene was something I'd expect to see in a 3rd rate Kung Fu movie. Just pure crap, and it's hard to be excited about watching the show going forward for me if this is the level of garbage they are peddling.

[–] PrimeMinisterX (8859) 2 years ago

He was a super-warrior there for a minute, but he did ultimately get hit by arrows so it didn't last forever.

[–] winslow (1318) 2 years ago

Band of Brothers did it first.

[–] ExTechOp (2770) 2 years ago

The problem with the ending was the idiocy of his one-man charge. Squads of archers can't hit a single target, wave after was of soldiers go at him one at a time and lose

I don’t know enough about medieval warfare OR the GoT universe to say definitively, but I’d guess Daemon’s move was both unexpected and unexpectedly daring.

Crabfeeder fell into Daemon’s “trap” by sending waves of less-trained fighters to be slaughtered and wasting arrows on a lone, moving target. He was tricked because no one expected anyone, least of all a nobleman and dragonrider like Daemon, to pull such a stunt, and was thus unready to counter with a logical strategy.

And I call it a “trap” in quotations because I don’t think Daemon actually thought it through himself. He’d just rather die than accept salvation from his brother.

Sort of the start of “Dancing With Wolves,” where Costner’s character does a suicide charge to avoid amputation, and accidentally inspires his own side to charge into battle in his defense.

[–] winslow (1318) 2 years ago

Daemon basically did their plan that they were talking about before he got there. If the crabfeeder sent out everyone from the caves, they could send in a crew to kill him. Daemon just did that last part on his own because the plan assumed he would get killed before he got the chance.

[–] fc31 (6119) 2 years ago

Crabfeeders withdraw to caves that is the part I find a bit hard to believe. They are pirates they can hide in caves but their ships can't.

If caves can hide ships, they are also big enough for dragons.

So dragons can burn their ships, without ships they lost mobility, if they hide in caves just smoke them out.

So that is the part I don't think really works.

[–] Quasimodo (16388) 2 years ago

I agree. As you say they could have used the dragon(s) to burn the crab man's ships and archers and force the rest of them into their caves. Then just lay siege to the caves and starve them out.

[–] fc31 (6119) 2 years ago

Exactly.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Daemon was likely insulted by the offer. Viserys never helped him for three years and Daemon was likely insulted - he felt patronized.

[–] RoloTony (1338) 2 years ago

I was confused at who was riding the dragon at the cliffhanger (I figured out it was Laenor eventually). Did I miss a significant scene with Laenor? I felt like I should've recognized him immediately the way they were pushing him.