Lt. Jackson was a good guy!!!

That's why I considered it a pity when he died and as a result his son would be left without a father. If only he hadn't directed his passions towards one target that happened to be innocent.

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Jackson was just as bad as the prisoners. Remember, he also threatened to kill the children of the man who - although that guy clearly was an irresponsible *beep* it still was an accident- ran his son over.
The prisoners may be scum, but even scum like that mostly have redeemable values.
Jackson also has redeemable values, but he still was a corrupted piece of *beep*
But, in the end : What's a good guy ? What's a bad guy ? That's really yours to decide. Me, I consider child rapists and serial killers ( the ones who pick random targets- including kids- and kill them in unimaginable ways ) the biggest pieces of *beep* in the world. I repeatedly had thoughts about killing a pedophile and a serial killer. And I'm sure there are a lot more people who have these thoughts from time to time. And when you look at the statistics : child rapists and these kind of serial killers I described above aren't thought of well in prison too.

But he's become just like them. That's the whole idea: you can be a decent guy but having to deal with vermin all the time, you get angry and violent and you forget what makes the difference between you and them.

He was in the uniform but he was more of a felon than Smith who did horrible things before he was in jail and avoided to get all that *beep* on him once he was in.

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Huh? This is a man charged with upholding the law, no matter what his personal greivance against it is.

The fights wouldn't have happened had he maintained rule of law.

He wouldn't have beaten down an inmate over a bet had he maintained rule of law.

His employees would not have feared him if he operated within the rule of law.

He may judge those he guards as an arbiter of rule of law, but he is anything but.

I am a very conservative previously convicted multiple felon, and I completely agree with punishment for criminals, but Jackson pushed it for his own financial as well as psychological benefit, and for that I will not give him a pass.

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He was most certainly not a good guy... he was evil and twisted. This is why the other guards on his crew were no longer comfortable working for him...

"The pressure of job and life" does not give anyone reason to commit violence... I'm sure many of those inmates could use the same excuse... Especially in his position, if he feels he can no longer support the justice/correction system he should quit and find a new job.

Sure the prisoners were presented as scum, except for Wade... but we don't really know much about any of them except 3 or 4... so that is a large assumption... good guys don't assume they are punishing bad guys...

Also assuming they will re-offend may be likely... but there is a system in place to deal with these people, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. You are suggesting the Judge Dred world, where cops have all the power of justice system... cops/guards are not angels... Maybe some of these prisoners would not reoffend...

Jackson can not possibly "know" that these inmates won't change for the better. That is rediculous.

We know almost nothing about his "normal" life. We do know that his wife divorced him... that suggests she knew he was a little off perhaps... I don;t think that bit of info was thrown in for no reason.

He probably started out half-decent, but then lost it and became a criminal himself. He didn't deserve to die, but deserved a long prison sentence to rethink his life choices.

You want more people like this...? Jackson is a violent criminal. Jackson became scum...

I really hope you have changed your views... with almost 3 million people in the prison system... it proves that there is something wrong with the society... they are not just all "scum". That's like blaming the students if an entire class fails...

Shame on the men in cuffs.... as SOAD once said... is not fair.





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I couldn't possibly disagree more. Jackson was without question one of the bad guys. During a scene in the film, John Smith talks about prison and how societies rules no longer matter. Its the cops rules and the gangs rules that matter in jail. He goes on to explain how prisons desensitize you and that its "no different for the ones pulling the trigger". He concludes the conversation by stating that "were all prisoners in here".

Basically what John Smith meant by that is that even the cops are prisoners and the effects of prison (desensitization etc.) are felt by everyone, including the guards/cops. That is actually one of the main underlying themes behind this entire film. Even cops can become bad guys when they are in that type of situation for a long enough period of time. Not only are we told this directly from John Smith, we are also given the opportunity to see it play out with Jackson's character.

I have no doubt that Jackson started out as a good man and the film wants you to know that as were shown this "good" side of him in a number of scenes. The grocery store scene and the scenes with his son are good examples. Unfortunately, the time spent in the prison has taken its toll and as the film progress, we see more and more just how bad Jackson has really become. We're are also given other pieces of information, pieces that ultimately show us that all is not well in Jackson's world. For example, the fact that Jackson's wife left him.

The scene with the drunk driver who hit his son is one of the key scenes in regards to the regression of Jackson's character. Basically Jackson was a "good man" but years of working in the prison have taken its toll.


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