Stay inside and dial 911? Huh..BS, glad I live in Texas! - Felon (2008) Discussion

[–] TheMachinistSleeps 14 years ago

I'm pretty sure the law says something about "imminent threat to life" or similar. You should probably check on that before you shoot little Jimmy next halloween.

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[–] seektruth 14 years ago

Yes, you are correct.

"The occupant(s) of the home must reasonably believe that the intruder intends to inflict serious bodily harm or death upon an occupant of the home"

But you see, this is Texas and in some cases America, where ignorance of even ones own laws is common practice.

But hey, you won't see me breaking into anyones house, much less some uneducated Texan's with a disporportionate amount of testosterone flowing through them.

Guns are for tough guys! And the even TOUGHER ones shoot unarmed people! HOORAH! American education system for the win!

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[–] I_Created_U 8 years ago

Amen.

People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs

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[–] most_powerful 13 years ago

are u allowed to shoot/kill an intruder/burgla in texas? if so, then thats a good law

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[–] charleecrat 13 years ago

yeppers its called the castle doctrine, use to the burglar had to come inside and threaten you and you had a duty to retreat, they took that duty to retreat out and now even if you are in my driveway and i feel threatened, this all it takes...fire away, its like the ole wild west here in Texas

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[–] most_powerful 13 years ago

thats a good god-given law. these kinda people are scum anyway, so they need to be blown away ha ha

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[–] charleecrat 13 years ago

http://www.wfaa.com/home/Police-investigating-deadly-shooting-in-Saginaw-130158628.html

just in the paper today a fireman came home and caught a burglar, use to this was not a crime where you could kill the perp, he had to be
1. in yer house
2. have a lethal weapon
3. threatening yer life
4 only after first retreating, then you could fire on him to act in self defense

now with the new castle Doctrine not the case! im really wishy washy about this too, in some cases it is good other cases, a teenager could be acting up doing something he would regret if he lived and now the homeowner can take him out w/o recourse, i dunno if i totally agree with the law.

Look up a Houston case, the old man calls 911 and says a neighbor is getting ripp off and he was gonna shoot him, 911 say DONT stay in yer house !" he says NO and so he goes outside and shoots the guys and kills them in his neighbor's yard, turns out they were illegal aliens with records for theft and the homeowner was not charged based on the castle doctrine.

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[–] most_powerful 13 years ago

we need such a law here in england. the law needs to protect us, not the intruders. so in the us, different states have different rules regarding burglars. what about shop/stores robberies, where the robber comes with a gun. are you allowed to blow him away? surely a guy robbing u at gunpoint, if that aint life-threatening, then i dont know what is

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[–] charleecrat 13 years ago

oh yeah that was legal years ago, in fact I worked for a lawyer years ago and next door was a small food store, they got broken into so many times, finally one day the roober came with a gun and as he was fleeing with the cash the owner/clerk shot him and killed him. I asked if he was in trouble and all the lawyers said NO WAY he has a right to protect his store. I didnt know but that was legal way before the castle doctrine was.

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[–] most_powerful 13 years ago

so is texas the only right-minded state which has this law, to kill intruders?

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[–] charleecrat 13 years ago

im not sure I know generally speaking the coasts are very liberal and the center and south US are more conserative so the criminal laws reflect that. A strange example is California has a death penalty but they havent put anyone to death since the 70's or 80's and chances are the condemned will live out their lives on death row wherease Texas will string um up in as little as 7 years.

My guess would be not many other states have this liberal of gun laws.

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[–] zeeboe82 13 years ago

I'm a Texan too, and I'm proud of it. I am also an Atheist and a Liberal, however, when it comes to crime - I am more Conservative then George W. Bush! I have *no* compassion for criminals! I don't care if they live in ghettos, and/or were abused by parents, or whatever. Cry me a river! If I have to obey the law, so does everyone! And you kill someone, you deserve to die. You break into their house, DIE!

I will never go too places like Norway or California! They care more about the scumbags then the innocent people. Texas rules. We don't put up with nonsense here. You ultra-liberal yankees can be victims in your neck of the woods, but in Texas, we ain't gonna put up with it!

Heck, I wish they'd bring back hangings to kill prisoners!

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[–] charleecrat 13 years ago

OL yer in the right state ! LOL I would think if I were a victim of a crime I would feel the same way. I surely would feel threatened if I caught someone in my house. Would I kill them? Well since I dont really own a gun I guess I could knock them in the head with my iron skillet but if someone else felt the need to blow them away, the law now allows this. I just hope I never have to face being a victim and I do feel for anyone who has had this experience. maybe if this law was in place up in Connecuit or wherever those 2 guys killed that doctors family, maybe they would have chose not to break into the house unless it was empty. For the life of me I cannot understand what drives sicko's like that and they both got the death penalty I think, at least one did for sure the other one with the foregin name is on trial now, hope he gets the same. I heard he has royalty in his family, like princess/princes or something like that. Big deal and I sure hope they carry out the sentence.!

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[–] megacult88 13 years ago

lame idiot... 'atheist' lol.

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[–] joekill162 12 years ago

Yep Texas got some good laws when it comes to guns and self defense, but he was in california one of the top 3 states with the worse self defense and gun laws in the USA, a state that profit on throwing thousands of people in jail, a state that only if you have money you can get away with a crime and a good lawyer look at O.J Simpson

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[–] titus227 13 years ago

Basically, if a man invades my home, his life is forfeit. I don't care if he does (and probably would) run when he saw me. That mother *beep* came in through his son's window if you paid attention to the story. Not kosher, my friends.

For those of you that say that you would not kill the man or 'he was running away', you are exactly the kind of pussy that should not have a family as you are unwilling or unable to protect them. I'm not the kind of man that will wait until my son is dead to take action, obviously Stephen Dorff is not that kind of man, either. Furthermore, throughout the movie, Stephen is constantly reassured that he has done the right thing and the system was time and time again shown to be flawed. He got out of jail because the system was so corrupt. All of you people arguing for the CRIMINAL and not for the family that was victimized, you obviously missed the point of this film and need to examine where your morality lay. That burglar was knowingly risking his life when he broke into another man's home. Period.

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[–] BigEasy1203 12 years ago

Well said.

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[–] eoval 13 years ago

My thought from the very beginning first time and every time since...

The trouble with Socialism is that someone else always gets to determine what's fair

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[–] tom_grainger88 13 years ago

As opposed to? What system lets you decide wether you may or may not kill people without any oversight or investigation?

I forgot that under capitalism you get to be the judge on your own trial....

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[–] keithw1975 12 years ago

How often do the police kill an un-armed person who is trying to flee? I have seen it happen on the news. I sure as hell have more justification than they do on public property when a person is in the process of violating my home and still on my property.

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[–] TennesseeTarheel 12 years ago

When seconds count, the police are minutes away. S&W.

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[–] carthur27 12 years ago

An Oklahoma pharmacist was convicted of 1st degree murder and given a life sentence for shooting one of 2 armed robbers who came into the pharmacy.

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-pharmacist-files-appeal-of-murder-conviction/article/3714825

The DA was a Democrat.

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[–] darklydreamingrahu 12 years ago

I live in Florida and, like Texas, we have every right to kill an intruder. In fact, we have every right to kill anyone threatening our lives. It's called "Stand Your Ground."

I'm a proud liberal on most things, but when it comes to firearms and home protection, I get red fast. I've been a victim of home invasion. 5 gangsters rushed me in my apartment and beat me almost to death while I was living in Milwaukee. I had no firearms at that point. That will never happen again.

If you destroy the sanctity of my home, you will die. It has nothing to do with "testosterone" or whatever lame excuse some of these bleeding hearts try to argue. It's protection and honor, plain and simple.

If you don't have the courage to protect your family and your home, then you don't deserve that family and home. This is America, you never know who has a firearm. If you're breaking in my house, then the assumption is that you are locked and loaded. Every state should allow you to protect you and your family.

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