The Ending: Your Thoughts?
So what do you think: Real events, or drug-induced delusion?
shareReal, not drug-induced.
The aquarium - both men were lost in their own little dream world, leaning against glass dividing them from another strange, mysterious, incomprehensible world.
Watching Herzog's Encounters At The End Of The World might help people to understand/appreciate the aquarium backdrop.
I also read somewhere that Herzog added the full-circle ending (meeting the prisoner he saved who offers to save him) and the aquarium scene at the last-second to establish a ray of hope at the end, because by the end of filming he felt the original ending (McDonagh threatening the second couple leaving the nightclub) was too dark.
i thought it was a dream sequence. how does everything work out at the end for a crackhead?
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it seemed plausible and certainly fit the deranged tone of the movie.
i mean, he made a few grand off a college football game. not far out.
his girlfriend, who obviously loved him and was looking for some emotional stability quitting drugs and whoring? not too ridiculous. it was a pretty logical next step in their relationship.
he planted the crack pipe deliberately. he was *beep* up, but he still had a plan.
the big stroke of luck was the italian mobsters showing up and getting blasted by big fate.
i think all of it was real. it made sense that the only thing he kept were the drug addictions.
i have suffered chronic back, neck and general muscular pain for the last 3 years (i'm 20 now) partially from sports-related injuries and i know what it feels like to be constantly looking for a way out.
pretty good ending imo
Anyone that thinks it's a dream is an idiot. It's basically in direct opposite to Keitel's version, however here everything works out for him despite being a druggie *beep*-up
shareI didn´t think it was a dream, nor he was high on drugs.
What i didn´t get completly was the acquarium scene. What are we supposed to think?
Now that he met the guy whom he saved and indirectly put him in the drug addiction situation he´s in and finds out that he´s ok, with a job and grateful of him, he´d start think that he must change? That he needs help?
And the phrase: "You know, Chavez... I still hate that I ruined my underwear for you."
Maybe he meant that he hates what happened to him next and is willing to change... Still...
I havent seen the Keitel version but my thought was , what's going on, is he dreaming? Everything seemed to come together for him just out of nowhere and he got some kind of fairy-tale happy ending in spite of all the dirt he did. Its ambiguous but I dont see how its definitely not a dream or drug-induced fantasy. It was cemented for me when I saw he was back to shaking down couples for their drugs. It could be nothing for him ever changed.
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So what do you think: Real events, or drug-induced delusion?
It's kind of obvious he dies when he sits down to watch that soccer game on the tv right after he took those really really potent drugs from xhibit who even makes a point that you'll have to cut that stuff up or you will die.
He doesn't cut it with anything, he dies.
When he "wakes up", everything works out for him from then on.
Even the most primitive society has an innate respect for the insane.
Real but abstractly symbolic - meeting the prisoner just adds further unrealism to an already vastly unrealistic happy ending. We never see the prisoner saved in the first scene or get precise info on this, so for all I know Cage and the prisoner could meet at the end in an underwater dead world after mobsters sent him to the bottom of the Mississippi River.
"You couldn't be much further from the truth"- several
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