MCU spiderman still sucks


He still feels like he has training wheels. In his debut comic he was a teen and knew his calling after his uncle Ben died. They are relying on Nostalgia to sell this and using the one more day to erase the first two dumpster fires. They should have made him college age in civil war(in the actual comics hes in adult) like the cartoon or romita/Conway comics

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He's better than Kurtzmanverse Spider-Man.

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You may not be aware of it but they are partially basing it off the Ultimate Universe where he was a teenager for his whole Spider-Man career. I don't like that myself but they really wanted to make it very different from the previous movies. I myself don't like them as much as the previous movies. I am in the minority preferring the ASM movies. Of course I like the comics more than the movies. I am looking more forward to this one though because of it having the characters from the pre MCU Spider-Man movies in it.

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then they need to recast the actor since in ultimate spider-man peter is 15 , Tom Holland is 25 so he's too old for the role.

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Well I think they do want him eventually becoming an adult though. I frankly don't care for Ultimate. I prefer the original comics.

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The long Bendis-Bagley run on Ultimate Spider-Man is my favorite thing Marvel has ever made. It felt like an expansion of the Lee-Ditko run, now my second-favorite thing in Marvel history, given room to breathe by the modern comic book format. And what I love about the two MCU Spider-Man films is the way they've merged those two entities into two perfect films.

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To each their own. I've never liked Ultimate much and frankly some of the stuff they did with the other Marvel characters was too messed up. Like Hulk and Blob being cannibals, Wolverine being Pietro's and Wanda's father because he had an affair with Magento's wife, and Wanda and Pietro being in an incestual relationship. I also dislike Monster Green Goblin.

Personally I prefer John Romita's Run to Steve Dikto's. I do like Dikto's Run but it was in Romita's run that it's revealed that Norman Osborn is Green Goblin, that introduced Mary Jane (she was sort of in a previous issue but it didn't show what she looked like), Shocker, and Kingpin.

I admit though that Dikto was apart of the run that had Peter graduating highschool, introduced Norman, Harry, and Gwen, and is also responsible for one of my favorite Spider-Man stories The Master Planner where Peter has to risk his life and fight near death agaisnt Doc Ock to save Aunt May. I know Spider-Man Homecoming partially did that but I hated that it was Tony Stark he thought of instead of Aunt May. Then again Aunt May wasn't even ill like in the comic so that's a bit of a nitpick to me.

We still have yet to even see Peter become an adult in the MCU and frankly knowing how the world is they'll probably kill him off and replace him with Miles Morales. I prefer Peter as an adult to him being a teenager and him being a teenager is such a small part of the original character's history. I do like a lot of the stories from the 70s, 80s, and early 90s. You however seem to hate him being an adult and cling to something that happened decades ago. I find that kind of weird.

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Overall the rest of the Ultimate stories were hit or miss. There were some amazing highs, but plenty of lows. Ultimate Spider-Man in particular was nearly flawless, as far as I'm concerned. One of the changes I most liked was that the Green Goblin was actually a frightening green goblin-like monster rather than an industrialist in a latex mask. I think a lot of this has to do with being an adult when those came out, as opposed to being a kid when I read the Ditko and Romita stories. From an adult standpoint, despite comics being ridiculous by nature, it's just *too* ridiculous to envision an adult man wearing a Halloween costume and lobbing pumpkin-shaped bombs, metal bats, plastic ghosts, and whatever else at his enemies. He may as well have called himself Halloween Man. That was the norm in the early days of comics, but in this modern era, when as many adults as kids read comics, it's nice to have a more subdued approach to some of the gimmickry.

And no, I don't hate Spider-Man being an adult, but his entire persona for decades was based on him being the young hero. He was the teenaged hero with typical teenage hangups, and then the college student struggling with all the things that come with being 18-21. The first 25 years of his existence were built around that trope, as well as the entire 11 year run of Ultimate Spider-Man. In the MCU, as in the comics, nearly all the other heroes are full-grown adults, so it's interesting to have one story being told about a hero on his way to adulthood.

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Valid points. I myself am a consummate loyalist to classic runs but ultimately (pun intended) really liked the Spider-Man revisioning. The rest of the Marvel titles in Ultimate were extremely douchey though imo.

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