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Relentlessly Smug film


Not a bad movie. Easily the most gorgeous Bond film. But my lord is it pretentious. And long. The whole Home Alone sequence is unnesssary. The climax kind of happens with the whole train thing. Then it just keeps going like a whole different film. The constant deconsruction of the myth while also celebrating its legacy was very weird.

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interesting analysis , it does feel abit where Bond films became even more prestigious/pompous (not that they wernt previously, especially the previous 2) but the high calibre director (Craig related and no doubt desperate for a hit film) , oscar winner Bardem (theyd been previous oscar winners like Walken but not in such a high class production as this), full national treasure multi oscar winning Dench elevated to leading lady status, highly respected and now box office behemoth (and previous Avenger/Steed 2.0) Ralph Fiennes as new M , the beautiful cinematography from soon to be oscar winning Deakins (no doubt got the Blade Runner 2 gig based on the spectacular Blade Runner-esque high rise fight in SF) and as you say the curious deconstruction/analysation of the myth (Bonds past/psyche, London, Scotland) but still a celebration for 50th (DB5, introduction of Q/MP/new M, the 2012 Olympics Queen gag) all coming to a crescendo with the incredible $1.1b elevating Bond into superhero league box office (was 2nd only to Avengers that year, even bigger than even Dark Knight Rises. to which SF owed Nolans trilogy a great deal)

of course it all kind of backfired on the follow up..

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Easily the most gorgeous Bond film.


For years "It was a good looking film" has been almost exclusively the reason why people praise this as a good film & I just don't get it. It's never about the ridiculous, convoluted plot or the characters. To this day I don't understand why so many people were won over by the pure, mindless spectacle of a film when it provides little substance beyond that. IMO it's easily the worst film of an already mediocre Craig era.

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It's my new tv maybe, but I never saw how slick it looked till now. I couldn't see passed the dumb story. I don't think the movie is without worth. All the Bond films reflect the era they were made in and this is what Hollywood was doing. So I accept that. But it had just an amazing marketing campaign. They pushed this thing hard. They created a hype that the movie didn't deserve.

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Agreed. Nothing of the Craig era should be celebrated. The lowest point in the history of the Bond series.

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movie was great until Sévérine got smoked on the island
and then it transformed into pure garbage

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I think the word "pretentious" keeps coming up with Sam Mendes. Most of the guys movies are either forgettable or you wish you could forget them.

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Like I say, it's not that good a movie, it's a meandering mess of a movie with some absolutely fantastic scenes!

I mean the rat monologue was worth the price of admission on its own, but the rest of the movie is all ups and downs, more downs than ups.

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I'm a bit heavier on movies of late because the world has been waging war on comics for over a decade. It all becomes very tiresome.

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Watching it now

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Have fun! The movie is actually something of a high crest considering what follows.

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