Is the Elephant Abuse Too Hard to Watch?
I'm really sensitive to violence against animals and I wonder if it would be too hard to watch in this movie? Were there multiple incidents?
shareI'm really sensitive to violence against animals and I wonder if it would be too hard to watch in this movie? Were there multiple incidents?
shareIt was difficult for me to watch. And yes, there are multiple incidents that are cringe-worthy. All I can say is I hope that was all CGI magic and not a real elephant.
shareIt is difficult to watch but, to the credit of the filmakers most of it is not actually seen only implied but, is still extremely effective. The scenes that are played out are done w/cgi. As an example, when they filmed August striking the elephant, I believe Christoph actually had nothing in his hand.
shareYeah, CGI. There's a great quote from an crewmember talking about the beating scenes talking about how it was odd because Christoph is off doing his thing (not touching Tai at all) and the trainer is just off camera calming saying, "Tai step forward." "Tai Back" "Mouth open" or whatever the commands were.
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I couldn't bare it. I had to look away; but I am a pretty emotional guy.
shareI couldn't watch the horse getting shot or the elephant getting beaten... animal abuse scenes really are too much for me, but at least the scenes are implied and nothing is really shown.
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The important thing is, whether one watches or not, that the scenes are disturbing and uncomfortable. I would be much more concerned (and from what I have read, so would the author and filmakers) if the topic was not discussed.
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I'm really sensitive to violence against animals as well.
"I wonder if it would be too hard to watch in this movie"
I think the directer did a good job of keeping the actual violence to the Elephant off screen. Most of it is just implied with the results(blood) shown afterwards.
"Were there multiple incidents?"
I think two but the first one was not as intense as the second assult.
I don't know just how sensitive you are but I think the movie is well worth watching even with the violence.
You can prepare yourself before hand by remembering that it is just a movie and that the Elephant was not actualy injured in making the movie.
the filmmakers did exemplary work in taking care of Tai. the violence is done through trickery and implication and still hard to watch because the elephant is so sweet. the violence done to"rosie" the character is awful, but one scene, for example, has the camera remain outside while the "violence" occurs unseen and the camera shows the horror on robert pattinson's face. his animal-loving character stands in for us and it's heart-breaking.
but integral to the story.
it's a very interesting notion, how we can more easily accept the onscreen abuse or even death of a human character, rather than an animal's. we can rationalize a human, knowing it's really an actor there, while we can never be sure how kindly an animal actor has been treated--they didn't volunteer, they were volunteered by a trainer.
however i can tell you i know the wonderful broadway dog handler, bill berloni, who rescues dogs and helps them find a new chapter in life when the majority would have been put down. he is a sweet guy and his dogs treated with more than respect, they are handled with love. all of his dogs in Annie have been rescue dogs!
Typically we see animals as "innocent" like a child. So there's an innate need to be protective of them.
Grown adults have, to some degree, intelligent reasoning. Because of this, they have more of themselves to blame for most incidents (as it comes to movies).
Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it.
For me knowing that the elephant can get her payback in the end gave me the strength to watch it. It is difficult to watch and for one scene, you don't see it but the noise is just as bad as watching it.
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I agree with the above spoiler! Great scene! I was wondering how they get the elephant to sound like she is in pain. Is that a sound they used from a documentary perhaps?
sharePart of the heart of this film is that violence, so it is important to witness it in its entirety.
I did cry the first time I saw it, but to be fair I was premenstrual and I even cried watching "The Iron Giant" (that "superman" line gets me every time)...so do not take me as an example.
I do not think there is as much violence toward animals as you think though. Even if you do end up crying or just feeling bad it will be worth experiencing the film.
Watching the elephant abuse was very hard to watch. I cried throughout the whole thing and for several minutes after it happened. I was yelling saying how much I wanted to beat the guy that beat the elephant. It didn't really happen I know but I can't stand to watch innocent animals getting beaten like that. She was listening to Rob. You just have to have that connection with the animals to get them to do what you want them to. Beating them will make them that much more defiant.
shareI have not watched this movie because of the violence towards animals in it, anymore than I watch movies with abuse towards children and adults. I know it happens but I don't want my entertainment ruined being reminded that this kind of treatment happens still in this world. Just remember the 40 elephants recently gunned down by men in helicopters for their tusks.
Some things make me ashamed to be a human being. I don't think this kind of movie has a place in entertainment; it's too graphic for our souls and desensitizes us to violence of all types.
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Stop being a fanatic. You diminish the importance of the animal rights movement by making people mistrust those really trying to end the abuse. Mistruths and exaggerations along targeting what is convenient with inaccuracies turns off those that need to be reached.
shareBut how can you expect people to learn about and take a stand against animal violence if they are sheltered from it? Documentaries are one thing but they're typically only watched by those who are already interested in the cause (and are harder to watch because the violence is often real).
Movies can be incredibly powerful in the way they can get people to feel emotion and empathize with certain characters. The pork industry took years to recover after the movie Babe was released - I can't imagine an animal rights campaign having that type of effect.
The things you think you see would be computer generated anyway, so I don't know what the problem would be.
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Honestly, I had to stop watching half way through because the violence made me so upset. Yes, a lot of it is implied, but it's still existing in the world of the film and the mere knowledge of it was too much for me.
The film itself wasn't bad and I wish I could have finished it, but the abuse was making me sick and I just had to give up and turn it off. If you're sensitive to animal cruelty, you may not want to watch this movie.