Autobot Twins racist i dont see it!

"That's the most retarded thing I ever heard. So if there was an animated chararacter with a spanish accent and said "Papi" alot it's racist? The Character Jazz had the same style but barely said two words in the film was like the Twins except not funny or goofy. People so eager to pull out the race card for whatever little thing."

Part of it is those trolls that love to say every thing is racist-despite not understanding what that means. Part of it is newsgroups who want to kick up dirt so they can get ratings and hits. Part of it people who don't know anything who jump blindly whenever they hear or read something on the news. Most of it comes from trolls who just want to bash the movie but don't have anything to go on. Well, they have their feelings and preferences but they don't know how to articulate those so they resort to things like "Bay's a hack" and the like. They're upset that Transformers didn't appear on screen as it did in their minds when they were little when watching G1 on television. What they don't understand is watching a cartoon in the 80's as a kid brings a lot of nostalgia to adult hood and they can never take off their blinders.

I took off my blinders and know exactly what G1 is. So it doesn't bother me when I go in to the theater and see the humans as the main characters. Well, I have some understanding on how film works. The budget doesn't exist to make the Transformers the main characters not unless it was a completely CG film.

P.S. I never had a problem telling the Transformers apart on screen. It's just that people like to complain. It's the same complaints every single time the movie is released-you'd think they'd quit going to see it. Well, for the sequel everyone swore up and down their nephews dragged them-so I guess it's not their fault. Lol.



http://www.metacritic.com Just plain better than Rotten Tomatoes.

This guy above me has got to be kidding, I mean seriously do you think Michael Bay the guy who helped make Will Smiths career and revived Martin Laurence's is a racist. It's just urban styling in those characters for humor.I mean every time they show a dumb hill billy in a cartoon or movie do you yell that is racism, no you don't because you just want to complain. it's people like you who cause racism to be perpetuated by pointing every silly little thing as being racist.

I am sure Bay was sitting in his Klan outfit reading mein kampf and thought you know what would teach those black people I hate so much, if I made two characters that had urban style accents, and just to really teach them black people I am gonna put Tyrese in my movie and pay him a crap ton of money.

Also I mean in you signature you have a line from Grown ups, Happy Madison makes fun of races all the time in their films, so you are not just a whiner you are a hypocrite.....

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Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs - A. Hitchcock

I agree completely with the fact that I think everyone should be able to laugh at themselves. I love Eddie Murphy (well 80's Eddie Murphy) and the funniest thing he does to me is when he uses his "white guy" voice, it's purposely corny and geeky sounding and I love it. I know it's kinda true too, there are a lot of corny sounding up tight white people. I don't get all offended and act like Eddie Murphy is a racist, I just think he is a comedian and doing it to get laughs, and honestly even if he absolutely loathed white people I would still think it's hilarious.




Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs - A. Hitchcock

"No offense to african-americans, but why are you so sensitive?"

If you don't know, than it is useless trying to explain it to you. You will never understand.

About the reading thing.

Do people realize that Bumblebee can't read that (and it's not aware of what language is), and Wheelie (who knows what language is) also can't?

If you dont like them then why the F are you defending it? The twins were NOT funny, that is the difference between what Murphy, Tosh and Rock do. Racial jokes are supposed to be funny, not offensive. The twins were offensive, that's it end of story. Obviously you are too thickheaded to see it, that or your just trolling.

I want to get chocolate wasted!

When I saw this movie I immediately thought "southern white redneck" and a "black person from the ghetto"... So who is it racist against? Black? Whites? Both? People forget that a white and black actor played these characters.

The argument that these to characters are racist is truly an epic fail. Too many people jealous of the franchise's success. There are also too many sheep that go along with whatever they hear rather than investigating for themselves, or forming their own opinion without influence from the masses.

By the way I am black not that it should matter.

Jive-talking twin Transformers raise race issues

Updated 6/24/2009 3:09 PM

LOS ANGELES — Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen introduces some 40 new mechanized characters of all shapes, sizes and even sexes — but it's a pair of jive-talking 'bots that critics are singling out as more than just harmless comic relief.

Skids and Mudflap, twin robots disguised as compact Chevys, constantly brawl and bicker in rap-inspired street slang. They're forced to acknowledge that they can't read. One has a gold tooth.

As good guys, they fight alongside the Autobots and are intended to provide comic relief. But the traits they're ascribed raise the specter of stereotypes most notably seen when Jar Jar Binks, the clumsy, broken-English speaking alien from Star Wars: Episode I — The Phantom Menace, was criticized as a racial caricature.

Wall Street Journal film critic Joe Morgenstern described Binks in 1999 as a "Rastafarian Stepin Fetchit," a reference to a black character from the 1920s and '30s that exploited negative stereotypes for comic effect. Extending that metaphor to the Transformers sequel was AP Movie Critic Christy Lemire, who calls Skids and Mudflap "Jar Jar Binks in car form."

And Manohla Dargis, film critic for The New York Times, takes it a step further, writing that the Transformers characters were given "conspicuously cartoonish, so-called black voices that indicate that minstrelsy remains as much in fashion in Hollywood as when, well, Jar Jar Binks was set loose by George Lucas."

Director Michael Bay insists that the bumbling 'bots are just good clean fun.

"We're just putting more personality in," Bay said. "I don't know if it's stereotypes — they are robots, by the way. These are the voice actors. This is kind of the direction they were taking the characters and we went with it."

TV actor Reno Wilson, who is black, voices Mudflap. Tom Kenny, the white actor behind SpongeBob SquarePants, voices Skids. Neither immediately responded to interview requests for this story.

Bay said the twins' parts "were kind of written but not really written, so the voice actors is when we started to really kind of come up with their characters."

"I purely did it for kids," the director said. "Young kids love these robots, because it makes it more accessible to them."

Screenwriters Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman said they followed Bay's lead in creating the twins. Still, the characters serve no real purpose in the story, and when the action gets serious, they disappear entirely, notes Tasha Robinson, associate entertainment editor at The Onion.

"They don't really have any positive effect on the film," she said. "They only exist to talk in bad ebonics, beat each other up and talk about how stupid each other is."

Hollywood has a track record of using negative stereotypes of black characters for comic relief, said Todd Boyd, a professor of popular culture at the University of Southern California's School of Cinematic Arts, who has not seen the Transformers sequel.

"There's a history of people getting laughs at the expense of African-Americans and African-American culture," Boyd said. "These images are not completely divorced from history even though it's a new movie and even though they're robots and not humans."

American cinema also has a tendency to deal with race indirectly, said Allyson Nadia Field, an assistant professor of cinema and media studies at the University of California, Los Angeles.

"There's a persistent dehumanization of African-Americans throughout Hollywood that displaces issues of race onto non-human entities," said Field, who also hasn't seen the film. "It's not about skin color or robot color. It's about how their actions and language are coded racially."

If these characters weren't animated and instead played by real black actors, "then you might have to admit that it's racist," Robinson said. "But stick it into a robot's mouth, and it's just a robot, it's OK."

But if they're alien robots, she continued, "why do they talk like bad black stereotypes?"

Bay brushes off any whiff of controversy.

"Listen, you're going to have your naysayers on anything," he said. "It's like is everything going to be melba toast? It takes all forms and shapes and sizes."

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2009-06-24-transformers_N.htm