Good movie


The movie was suspenseful and well made. Elizabeth Moss did a good job. I would rate it an 8/10.

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Then can I ask you a question?
Did I miss something or did it seem her sister and her cop friend and his daughter turned on her pretty quickly when the email was sent and the daughter got slapped?
I'm seriously wondering if I missed something since they had all been so supportive before these singular events..

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somewhat spoilerish talk ahoy, i guess.
i can understand the cop friend, perhaps. she's shown some irrational behavior to that point, & i could very easily understand that the most important thing would be getting his daughter away from her.

the sister is a bit tougher to explain away. you'd think that perhaps she'd want to hear her out, get an explanation.

there are a few other little quibbles, i think. like that restaurant moment - that doesn't work if any of the people in that packed restaurant see what happens, or if there are security cameras around.



so i don't think it's a perfect, clockwork thriller.

but i thought it was a very, very good film. especially in the first half, where i thought the scenes were genuinely creepy & suspenseful.

4/5 from me. one of the better horror/thrillers of recent years.

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Yeah, I did think it had its moments and I particular enjoyed the first half...but I legitimately thought maybe I'd missed something crucial.
It just seemed abrupt that neither wanted to hear her out or be a little more concerned that she needed help..

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They did turn on her fairly quickly, but her story did sound crazy. It makes more sense for them to think that she hit the daughter and sent the email, as opposed to a dead guy who is invisible doing it.

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Oh, no doubt they should think she'd lost her marbles..She seemed extremely irrational.
But they came across as very angry where it seemed they should first be concerned about her..

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that i agree with, for sure.
while i can understand in that moment the father just wanting to get his daughter out of the house, any reasonable person ought to be thinking 'this person has lost touch with reality, and needs to be hospitalized for her own sake and for the protection of others.'

and the sister's reaction is a bit harder to justify, as i said above.

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If you are familiar w the dynamics of sociopathic abuse, this was pretty believable. In fact this was the scariest part of this movie to me, knowing that this is a dynamic that does happen. But especially, in this case, the alternative was having to believe in something that was akin to being supernatural. For any average person, the brain will only allow something like that as a last resort and even then it will resist it heavily. It was and is a lot more believable unfortunately to begin to question the deteriorating stability of a trauma victim instead, esp if said victim appears to act in ways that are personally hurtful to others, which is something that also makes the brain not think clearly, if it feels it's being attacked in some way. The human brain is very very easy to manipulate, if someone knows exactly what they are doing.

Personally I found this aspect of the film TERRIFYING, watching this guy systematically dismantle this girl's whole life and taking away one by one everyone and everything that afforded her any safe foundation, even her basic literal freedom. He completely made everything she was a complete lie and she had absolutely nothing left, even her ability to communicate the truth was compromised bc he took away any reasonable ability for anything she said or did to be credible...rendering everything abt the normal world completely threatening to her, no refuge or recourse whatsoever.

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But that wasn't my point..He dismantled her and made her seem unstable and irrational...sure.
I'm more than familiar with domestic abuse, too, by the way..
But these were her good friends...Should they not have been concerned more about her state of mind than angry at her? At least initially?
Their initial response was to act as if she was malicious in her intents and not concern that she may have had some kind of mental breakdown which should have been their first response due to the unbelievable supernatural events she was claiming.

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No not necessarily, bc what they believed she did WAS malicious...like I was saying, once ppl are targeted they will become defensive and lose their ability to think rationally, that's how and why it is easy to manipulate them. The stuff that was in that email was so extreme; "she" wished the sister's death and slammed and criticized her whole personality. Then clocked a child in the face REALLY frigging hard. It automatically put everyone in the position where empathy was not going to really be accessible to them bc what happened was so personally hurtful and threatening to them. That's what makes that type of manipulation so "brilliantly" effective.

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I agree
Way above the usual PG13 horror we're subjected to.

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I'd go along with what you said.
I watched Hollowman, immediately after to see which is better. I felt that Invisible Man (2020) was better.
Where Hollowman was more action oriented, this was more Horror/Suspense.

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This was a good spin on an old theme. Well-done.

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