The films starts with 5 minutes of voice over by Clooney. Red flag #1...
Huge cliche of a story. Tragedy happens within family and shakes them up while they grow closer to each other.
Because of that enormous cliche most of the characters next to Clooney are generic. The comic relief boyfriend. The little sister who is too young to understand what is going on. The older daughter who initially hates her father but who grows closer to him as the movie progresses.
The film is structured as being a road movie without being one. Noting bad with that but perhaps watch Little Miss Sunshine if you like that. It's a good movie that is actually about something. I think the director also liked that movie but forgot to copy the most important part.
Don't go see this. Really. Some of the scenes are so weird that it feels like a 12 year old did the cut.
Also the most ridiculous scene in the whole film (for me at least) takes place at the end of the film when Judy Greer's character burst out in tears. Over a person who she has never met. Who her husband was seeing on the side. A character who only made 2 brief appearances in the movie until then but who we are supposed to emphasize with?!?!
I ran out of the theatre when I saw the performance of the little girl hearing her mother was going to die. So bad.
I'm not sure we saw the same movie. I agree that some aspects of the movie were "cliche"....but many stories that are told follow a basic formula. That in and of itself is not a bad thing-many movies are based on plays by William Shakespeare who probably stole the ideas from someone else ( just kidding).
But I disagree about Judy Greer's scene. And "comic relief" boyfriend. The boyfriend isn't there for comic relief, he is there to highlight the idea about the assumptions people make. The character who reacts most strongly to the "boyfriend" is the dying woman's father, who's "assumptions" are what allow him to believe that his daughter was a perfect, faithful wife AND that Clooney was a terrible husband and worse man. It only highlights his misperceptions, when Clooney let's him go on believing that she was perfect and he was an a-hole. We the audience, assume that the boyfriend is an idiot with absolutely no depth because he fit our preconceived notion of the idiot, comic relief boyfriend. Our snap judgments mirror Clooney's character's and thus when Syd, shows wisdom and/or sensitivity we feel a little ashamed that we were so quick to assume we knew what he was about. The judgment passed by the dying woman's father is never confronted, but when the family looks through the hospital door and sees him looking broken and devastated by his daughter's situation, we see them gain the understanding that this father is no more two dimensional than any other character. It is the over-arching theme of the movie, completed by the notion that Hawaii is a place where everything's beautiful and everyone surfs all day...it's all about assumptions.
And Judy Greer's scene wasn't about us "emphasizing" (empathizing, sympathizing you mean, yes?)...it wasn't about her at all. It was about Clooney's reaction to it. The woman is unloading on the comatose woman...and I suspect if she had done the same thing earlier in the movie, before Clooney had a chance to "work through" his own anger and betrayal, he likely would have let her go on without interrupting. It was to show where Clooney was...Greer was immaterial.
I quite liked Clooney's performance. Not sure how people say he is just "playing himself". He is a professional bachelor, good time Charlie with no children. He plays a good intentioned father, who had some mirror looking to do. He responds to the idea that he could have been a better father, a better husband, a better descendant in a very understated way. I thought he was quite good in a movie that was sometimes slow.
Great Post! I agree with all of it. I doubt however, that it will change peoples minds, that are so cynical, they found nothing redeeming in this movie.
Clooney has no kids and is single, but he is playing himself here? I thought he was very believable as the husband and the father and there are alot of people that would agree.
Our snap judgments mirror Clooney's character's and thus when Syd, shows wisdom and/or sensitivity we feel a little ashamed that we were so quick to assume we knew what he was about.
That's such a tired old cliché in itself that I don't think anyone watching the film did NOT expect the comic relief kid to say something with a little depth when the story randomly asked for it.
The Judy Greer scene felt quite unnecessary as well with the whole unloading-on-the-dead-other-woman not being nearly as riveting as it was probably intended to be. The ridiculously over-the-top way in which the confrontation took place came off contrived and was quite cringe-worthy... it might even have been played for laughs given the way King had to escort the hysterical lady out.
There have been plenty of movies that have made dramatic gold out of clichés. This, unfortunately, isn't one of them.
Yes indeed; you dissect the narrative with a sharper eye than most posters on this thread. Some also fail to see that the dialogue is really sharp and crisp, more like real life than anything "Lifetime". Standing out was the young actor who gave Syd such an unorthodox, yet convincing, personality of an unrefined youngster who also had important things to say about life and our assumptions.
Great post. I thought The teenagers dialogues were remarkably authentic. The way Alex straightened out Scottie for example. Alex's honesty. Sids depth. Matts poor assumptions, but the way he works thru things and gets it right in the end.
I have studied and taught psychology and sociology for forty years. I have worked a few times as a co-therapist. I found the actions of characters in the movie believable. The average person might not have reacted the way the characters acted, but some people would have. I saw the movie with a nurse who has often worked with severely injured people and their families. I checked on my impressions by asking her several times whether depictions of treatment of the ill in the movie were ones she had observed. Her answer was always "Yes." Yes, a woman experiencing the crisis Judy Greer's character experienced could have burst into tears and confronted the ill by saying "I forgive you" in a way that was very accusatory. With respect to another criticism by someone else, Clooney's character runs to his wife's best friend's house because he desperately wants to know what his wife had done and he thinks the best friend knows that. I have seen many good films, like The Swan and The Help, which, in pursuit of telling some higher truth, include several scenes that are psychologically or sociologically impossible or extremely improbable. To me, The Descendents is a realistic film which incorporates only the feasible with two exceptions. The daughter's boyfriend is a little too much of a doofus. The ending is too pat. As for the acting, the actress playing the daughter just won the Independent Spirit award for the equivalent of Best Actress. I think she really deserved it. Clooney's character is supposed to be emotionally unexpressive. Clooney conveys his feelings with nuances.
Disagree with you. George Clooney deserve the Oscar for best actor, probably the movie doesn't deserve the best picture, but the movie is very well made. My opinion.
I agree with you in some parts and not in others. But thats how i usually view a movie. I try to see the good and the bad of a film and try not to trash it completely. I thought this is film had good acting and an interesting story. For a little while I thought it was a movie based on every character taking turns swearing and crying to see who can do it the best. Which the swearing i thought was a little over done. Although it did have some cliches I found myself surprised a couple times like when he actually went to greer's house and confronted him with a funny *beep* you line. So many times in movie's like this we see nothing happen. A lot of build up for nothing. Clooney would have went to the house and never said anything. Like somebody else said in the post before the idiot boyfriend I thought at first was there for comic relief hoping for them to get rid of him at some point in the movie, I found myself actually liking his character. Thinking Greer was going to show up but then his wife does. I thought the daughters were both kinda annoying but maybe thats what their characters were supposed to be. How else is a 10 year supposed to act in these situations. But the teenager seemed to be stereo typical angry at the world and her parents girl who cursed too much. Surprised Matthew Lillard showed up in this movie lol. But he was pretty good for a short part. I gave this a 6/10. For some good acting and wanting to see where the story went. Although I found myself just waiting for it to end. Peace.
Haven't actually seen the film but GC has always been hit or miss for me. I like Alex Payne although he hasn't done a whole lot of directing. About Schmidt was ok and I loved both Election and Sideways.
George Clooney is a slight enigma. When he's good he's really good but it's usually the movie around him that's great and he's there fitting in as a piece. EX - Up in the Air - probably my favorite movie of his where he gives his best performance - but you can't discount the great supporting cast in which he played his part terrifically but in no way could have carried that film by himself without the amazing writing and supporting cast, direction and writing. But then you have a movie like Syriana - I fell asleep 15 minutes in. Michael Clayton - not sure where that one came from.
And then you have the goofy George Clooney - Leatherheads, O Brother Where Art Thou - good movies and Geoerge Clooney does well here. Three Kings was the movie that got me started on actually liking GC because before that I hated everything he did. He was always the head down guy from ER. Blaahh. 3 Kings was a step for him. So he's got a good body of work...not all fantastic but not all bad either. Still intrigued to see the film. Only reason, I heard horrible things about the movie Super 8, recently got in from Netflix and actually enjoyed it, despite some corny weird parts...overall an entertaining film. Just my take, don't destroy me.
I agree 100% with you. One of the worst movies I´ve seen lately (and I´ve seen lots of them). I found it very strange that it was nominated as Best Picture - and it won Best Screenplay! Just pathetic.
So, you've seen a lot of movies lately and this is one of the worst? I would very much like to know you top 10 movies of say the last year. It might be fun to read...