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Fassbender was such a wuss

posted 10 years ago by johnbayer79
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He clearly sized up the "kids" all wrong, thinking that because they're so young they're no threat to him which is obviously a wrong assessment. Still he tries to get the kids to try & turn the music down and respect their elders smh. If you lack the full conviction to do something about it if the youth gang keeps "terrorizing" you probably shouldn't go through with it in the first place. It woulda suited him better to have packed their gear back up and left.

and the whole apology for a dead dog who the gang hss been using to intimidate you before and is now a PART of the fight smh I'm sorry but the time for apologies from EITHER side is long gone. After the dog croaked the leader would soon be joining him

[–] Hancockenstein 10 years ago

doesn't that make him foolish, not a wuss? I wouldn't assume foolish either I guess, most kids won't initiate a situation like this. Well in suburban USA at least.

[–] johnbayer79 10 years ago

You're right assuming the kids woulda respected his wishes and turned down the music IS foolish. But he still was a wuss IMO

[–] Hancockenstein 10 years ago

i'm not talking about turning down the music, i know plenty of kids wouldn't do that unless a) cops are likely getting called or b) they think it might get physical.

I was saying sizing up those kids wrong may make him more of a fool than a wuss. But even calling him that is a bit much, many adults would not not expect a life-threatening situation either. for good reason too, more often than not kids are all bark and no bite.

[–] johnbayer79 10 years ago

I'm sorry but they stole your car,they outnumber you, they have a huge scary dog, AND one of them came at you with a knife. you get the knife away from one of them(good),in the struggle the dog(IMO the biggest threat of the gang) gets killed (great, the odds just got better for you and your bride to be surviving)... Then you drop the knife and apologize? (wtf?? I'm not saying murder all the brats but dont drop the knife after all they're STILL THREATENING YOU even if it is a kid crying over his soon to be dead dog)
The more I think of it he was more of an idiot than a wuss

[–] Augustus_Octavian 8 years ago

I completely agree. Fortunately, his penalty was served shortly thereafter. So, all ends well. :)

[–] ofumalow 10 years ago

The OP is talking out of the usual orifice of "Having seen a lot of scary movies, I know exactly how I'd behave in real life when threatened with another completely unanticipated set of terrors." Of course you do. You think experiencing similar terrors in real life would be just like watching a movie--you'd anticipate the cliches and plot holes. What a completely stupid P.O.V. You'd be just as surprised, make decisions just as arbitrary. You're playing Monday-morning quarterback, as such people usually do. You're not smarter than this movie. You're just dumb enough to think you are.

[–] tomas_enoksson 10 years ago

Thanks for the first good post in this thread.

[–] TheSouthernDandy 9 years ago

This isn't a typical dumb, scary movie. It begins with situations that I and a lot of men commonly have to deal with, and the Fassbender character dealt with them very stupidly. I'm not here to give a lecture on the psychology of bullies, psychopaths and teenage boys, but you should know how you'd react to these people. If how you'd behave in a confrontation is a total mystery to you, you could very well find yourself behaving stupidly and arbitrarily in a worst case scenario. Refusing to think about or prepare for unpleasant things doesn't make you good or intelligent. You're just dumb enough to think that you are.

[–] Chocolegz 9 years ago

Right!

Erik Lehnsherr: You want society to accept you, but you can't even accept yourself.

[–] Augustus_Octavian 8 years ago

I disagree. If you seek violence, then do not be surprised when you successfully find it.

The movie here isn't of some innocent victims that were preyed upon. Fassbender deliberately sought out conflict, which ended poorly for him.

If your comment was about someone not being brave, that would be fine. This movie is about someone being too brave and then not being able to back it up.

[–] johnbayer79 10 years ago

To start things off I'm defending one of my several drunken posts i made after a my first viewing of Eden Lake. I liked the movie, it was well made and it took alot out of me! I was well into the bottom half of a 30 pack & now worked up im tryin to break myself of using a phone at all when drunk every once in a while it happens.

In true horror movie fashion the lead characters are "supposed" to do stupid things to make the audience groan so it did its job well. The dropping the knife thing really irked me but everyone from Jamie Lee Curtis has made that dumb mistake of not holding on to a weapon when you still need it.

Its only natural that you think what would I do in their situation. And with each drink stroking my ego i kept thinking I'd have done better. Of course i don't know that for a fact and there's no way of knowing until *beep* goes down and that depends on luck.

[–] TheSouthernDandy 9 years ago

Your first post was right. In vino veritas.

[–] johnbayer79 10 years ago

I'm smart enough to not drop a weapon I took off of someone in a gang pulled on me. That irked me.

[–] ofumalow 10 years ago

I admire your admitting you drunk-posted! It is a rare IMBD poster indeed who admits they were even kinda possibly sorta wrong, ever. I take back whatever I said previously. You, sir, are a (sometimes drunk, but aren't we all) gentleman.

[–] johnbayer79 10 years ago

Thank you good sir! Yeah I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong, and alcohol has me talking outta my ass alot. I've been thinking alot about this film and decided that its been a while since a film evoked such an emotion in me. I was really saddened & angry (sure the alcohol added fuel to the fire)at the way it turned out. looking back I realize its because I identified with fassbender's character since I'm a 30 something with someone special who I'd like to start a future with. So there's where my blame for him stemmed from. That wasn't even clear to me at the time even though it was staring me in the face.

[–] highway_demon_77 10 years ago

An insightful and self-conscious comment like this is extemely rare on IMDB, especially in the testosterone-streaked horror-section.

FURIOUS 7 - 4.3.15 That's right... Diesel-time, b!tches

[–] johnbayer79 10 years ago

Lol I guess that's true highway_demon_77