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An opinion from a teenager.


I do not drink. I do not smoke. I do not screw, unless I am using a screw DRIVER. Now I hear there are people, adults who have been whining about how Dakota Fanning was in this movie.

Here's something. I'm a 16 year old BOY. Technically 17 in several days. I'm what girls would call very funny, talented, not BAD looking, hell! I even have a damned set of abs on me! I'm 5'11 and 135 pounds.

Here's something that will blow you away.
I'm a virgin. I have morals. I'm actually more adult like than adults themselves, because they too can be irrational, yet I control my feelings of impulse. Believe it or not, as few as there are out there, there are teenagers JUST like me.

I'm Atheist! I don't have anyone telling me what I should or shouldn't do! And I hate reading books, so I don't follow what books tell me.

I listen to mostly 70's music, because I'm old fashioned, and I like it. I hate the overdramatic, yet I can sit around and occasionally crack a joke about it here and there.

Like I did today with Eclipse and 3 of my girl FRIENDS. I noticed Dakota Fanning and decided to come to her IMDB and noticed that "THIS GIRL SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS MOVIE BECAUSE IT'S A BAD INFLUENNNNCE" "Jesus Christ wouldn't allow THIS!"

Now I'm sorry, but Uh.. That's a bit shovenistic.

You raise your kids. Leave her alone. Her parents will face their future consequences if the choice was bad.

Now I personally challenge any of you so called "Adults" who plan to challenge MY logic. My completely unbiased logic.

I don't hate adults, I actually respect all of them. Most of them. The ones that can think with their head, which I'm suprised to find are at the same ratio as teenagers.

If she was ready, she was ready. If not, she will face the consequences and she'll learn, what's been done has been done.

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what is this I don't even
I play cards with J.D. Shelnut, chief of PO-lice! So kiss my ass, you old bastard!

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What? :P

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nice Slingblade reference...

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10/10 would read again.

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What is this?

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I guess. Whatever, dude.

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Riiight, I've been drunk for the past three days.

These past 5 posts have gone to show a 16 year old boy is literally more mature than you.

Awesome.

You should be proud of yourselves.

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3 day binge! right on maaaan
however other than the back story on you're goody goody upbringing, good on ya for not getting into that stuff just yet , you're correct

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Now I could be a complete troll here, commenting on how reading promotes mental sharpness, and gives you something to talk about at the dinner table. I could say that a mature adult handles his liquor, and a number of other poisons, if that is his/her choice; you didn't directly knock "the dark side", but it was implied that the virgin life is something to boast about (LOL). I might comment on religion - while it has total control over some, it is a moral foothold for others. And then I would add that some adults deserve very little respect. But I'm not here to attack you, someone who seems relatively open-minded; I'm here to laugh at the people who are trying to defend Dakota's innocence (who I doubt are on this forum).

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Yeah, being a virgin is pretty laughable, but It's better to have patience sometimes, to those that matter, it seems pretty respectable from them.

There are a lot of adults that can be compared to their depiction of the average teenager, which sometimes isn't too different.

It wasn't my intention to necessarily boast about virginity, it's just more of a smaller point to get the bigger point across. Not all teenagers need protecting, none are innocent, and that should be kept that way.

In many ways, not to sound gay here, but trying to restrict a teenager, is like trying to stop a flower from growing. It will, with or without that which is trying to restrict it.

You know?

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You sound rather smart for your age, I like that. Most kids your age spell worse than they did in kindergarten and couldn't think for themselves if their lives depended on it...

It's true about trying to keep a teenager down, it just doesn't work Sure there are the good ones who are like all about school and are sort of quiet but it's always the quiet ones who are more out there ya know what I mean?

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Yeah, true. I don't care much about school, I work rather lazily at it, but I get my work done to where I won't have homework, and still maintain a B average, so I'm pleased. As long as my grades are good enough for some sort of college, I'm content.

Yeahhh.. Teenagers are very strange these days. There's actually a place in my town where girls and guys go to scream into microphones and try to make make music, and everyone makes their own mosh pit and tries to dance..

The guys always wear tight girl jeans, straighten and color their hair, and wear really tight shirts. It's called the "Scene" fashion. It actually sickens me to see them.

There was a kid who was 14 in my high school, all the girls liked him. I had a deeper voice than him when I was TEN. All he could talk about was what flavor vodka he liked.

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oh my god! scene kids are the worst and there's so many of them where I live...I mean what's up with guys trying to look so...errm feminine? It was cool back in the 70's with Bowie and Marc Bolan but now it's just dumb hah. I prefer my guys to look like they are out of bands along the lines of Zep or Sabbath

Maybe he was just tryin' to get chicks with his wussy preference of flavored vodka

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Really! I loved how the 70's looked! It wasn't too over the top at all. Now guys spend more time on their hair with girls!

Teenagers really do fake they like alcohol. It seems the only part they love about it is the screwing, and praying to the damn porcelain god. It's literally their quest at the end of every school week.

And that's not an exaggeration, I witness at least 3 teenagers talking about it every day of the week during school.

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Looks-wise the 70's and the 60's are my favorite actually the 60's and the 70's are my favorite for everything haha

I know what ya mean, and most of them are way to immature to be allowed anywhere near booze. I dig it, but my luck of waking up after blacking out is starting to run out, soooo me n booze are taking a little break at the moment

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Ahhh. I see.

I believe I can be a big dumbass, but that time isn't for me yet. As soon as I'm 18 will be the time, because I'll be responsible for myself, and my parents won't be held liable.

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Smart idea

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How old would you happen to be?

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I see. Legal age I assume?

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Ohhh. I see!
Are the teenagers dumbasses over there?
Or is it just that way here in America? :P

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heh I'm Canadian, but yes the teenagers in my part of Canada are dumbasses

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I have an old friend from Elementary school who moved from Evansville into Canada. She turned out to be rather strange.. 0_o

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I had to google where that was, but oh I see :|
west or east coast?

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I have an old friend from Elementary school who moved from Evansville into Canada. She turned out to be rather strange.. 0_o

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Are you guys gonna blow each other now?

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In many ways, not to sound gay here, but trying to restrict a teenager, is like trying to stop a flower from growing. It will, with or without that which is trying to restrict it.

You don't sound gay, you just sound young. And this is a mistake. Most flowers are stifled before they ever bloom in this world and Hollywood certainly has the means to do just such. What's done is done but some of us wish to protect future young people from being corrupted too early in life.

That said, this isn't one of Dakota's roles that concerned me. Girls like her and Natalie Portman (naturally precocious girls) start being exploited by the movie industry at around age 10 when they perhaps do have a shred of innocence left, and when they are certainly still vulnerable to manipulation.

Some flowers grow into something twisted and mangled when they could have been beautiful. It's an issue that demands more attention.





That's the most you'll ever get out of me Wordman. Ever. -Eddie Wilson

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you are an idiot

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you are an idiot

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I'm seventeen myself, and I agree. I share many of the interests of the OP, but there are some things I want to add which has annoyed me for a long time.

There's this thing that I see many parents do, and it's poking fingers at stuff and placing blame everywhere else but at themselves. They'll say that these people are a bad influence, that those celebrities are terrible or something along those lines. You'know, you can't hang with him or her. What actually makes something or someone a bad influence is how the kid perceives the information or person that is given to him/her throughout the day.

What I'm trying to say is; teach your kid to think for themselves. Help build their confidence. Insert trust and loyalty in their lives. Really, it's not always about the sender, it's the receiver that ought to change. YOU have got to be the good role model.

I can safely watch The Runaways without immediatly becoming a loose drug-user. It's called critical thinking and strong morals. We're not all stupid, and you don't all have to take responsibility for us. Anyway.

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>> Now I personally challenge any of you so called "Adults" who plan to challenge MY logic. My completely unbiased logic.

Present some, and we can go from there.

What I read was the missives of someone who, being immature and rather self-important, has taken it upon himself to challenge the ideas and opinions of all those "old" people who reacted strongly to Dakota Fanning's portrayal of an alcoholic slut.

When you have children of your own, nurture them, provide them guidance and watch them grow into adulthood, perhaps then you may have some common ground with which to "challenge" the sense of shock and pain one feels when they see a child we've watched grow from a child turn to these dark roles.

I'm not saying you presented an invalid opinion, but by discounting or denigrating the opinions of others you essentially fall into the same category of people you excoriate for having such opinions. Granted, they could (and should) probably limit their exposure and express their disappointment in more constructive ways, but essentially they are expressing a strong reaction to a strong performance in what I can only assume is the only way they know. And that's actually a compliment to Dakota Fanning's acting abilities.

But, speaking as one of the "adults" you want to challenge, when you make such a big deal of being 17 with "a damned set of abs" and, in the same conversation try to present yourself as being "unbiased", you are not only showing your obvious bias, but your immaturity as well.

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And you of course have shown your natural aggression, adding the quotation of "a damned set of abs" which indeed had nothing to with your point.

I actually said I had abs to create an image of my "Image" and my actual self control given circumstances.

I wasn't trying to make some adults look stupid, they've done that themselves. I'll tell you something though. I do know what it's like to want someone to do something, sometime somewhere.

I actually used to be a very irrational, illogical kid, but I learned from my mistakes, not through my father, or my mother, but from my own experiences. By completely separating my family and friend life.

I befriend who I want to befriend, and if it's something that will disappoint my family, the people I come home to every day and survive the world with, then of course there's something wrong with ME, not my friends.

It would tell me I'm socially weak and imperceptive, and if I can't fix that, I'm going to drop those friends I have.


I used to get rather attached to certain girls, and I wouldn't want them to drink or smoke, or screw around, but now, I really realize that pushing them is just poking the damned bear, and either they learn, or they don't.

I know the feeling adults have of this need to "Control the blind" because that's certainly how some see it. But they have to come to the realization that they can't do it.

If you can do it, go ahead and TRY. :P Your life is yours, but keep in mind, your child is also your child's life. My recommendation is to really overcome that compulsive feeling of controlling them, and let them learn. If they can't seem to learn, try again.

You can always try again.

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what does this post have to do with the movie?

erika from panama

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Good show, young fella!

I didn't realize how old Ms. Fanning was as I'm unfamiliar with her work, but a lot of child stars, Drew Barrymore for one, were on drugs and booze before they were 12 and many were quite likely doing things of a prurient nature much younger than 15.

From what I understand, some child stars get really heavy into partying AFTER the movie roles dry up.

I would imagine that Ms. Fanning and her folks discussed thoroughly whether or not to do the scene.

One of the obvious benefits of doing such would be to make the transition into more mature roles.

There's a bit of irony there that doing a sleazy scene could likely result in more work and, subsequently, that Ms. Fanning would therefore be able to focus on acting in movies instead of being out of work, depressed and on drugs.

Sometimes, sleaze can result in wholesomeness!

captainonionpits, you've got a great head on your shoulders but, from the sound of your name, I would imagine that you don't wear deodorant.


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This posting simply shows how extreme people can be, I guess.


It's an R-rated FILM about a rock star that failed just as fast as that form of music did. Nothing more here, moving on...

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Yes, I too remember my first beer ;-)

Or more to the point, I too remember being 16 and in the peak of form physically (and hormonally). It's dead-easy to feel you are some kind of Superman at that age. Relish it while you can but don't forget to learn the all-important concept of humility. You're just another person after all. I still have these stud-muffin pics from those younger days but can't help look at them now thinking "young dumb full of cum". Trust me, no matter who you are, at 16 you have a LOT yet to learn about life. Not yet in a position to dictate how "adults" should think or conduct themselves.

Now go try to drink a beer again.

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words of wisdom, Captain... too true.

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Being not too far from your age (22 myself) and not to far from your personality at that age (besides the virgin thing, threw that out the window at 14, but was never "promiscuous" until later years) I can offer only a few words of adive, literally 3: give it time.

If my life is any indication (which it may not be at all, who knows) the next 5 or so years will be a total smack in the face.

On topic of the movie, to me, Dakota seems like a smart chick, and a good actress, who is already ready in her mind at least to take on challenging roles. We'll see if she's right, it would really suck to see her become another coke-whore-hollywood-slut, but hey its not my life.

And parents just have strange ideas about raising kids. I was raised with very little censorship around me, the first movie my parents took me to in theaters was Terminator, and I certainly am not and was never some gun-toting violent kid or anything like that. I had a bunch of sex when I became a teenager because that's what I wanted to do, probably based on the fact that that's what our bodies are designed to do.

When I'm a parent I will focus more on teaching a "look before you leap" approach to sex. You can never not do what you have done, or un-see the things you've seen. Being raised that way myself really helped me avoid some possibly bad decision making.

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