major plot hole.....
what if the murders continued??
shareThat's not a plot hole, it was by design to let us hang.
shareno I think the OP is referring to the exact same thing I was saying
It is A PLOT HOLE
The Point of Denzel's character Buying a red hair clip, Is to give Jim Peace....to convince Jim that Sparma actually was the Killer.
we are expected to believe that Jim can now be happy with his family and not go down the same path of guilt Denzels character did with Jim Believing he didnt kill an innocent man in Sparma
BUUUUUUTTTTT
If Leto's character was NOT The Killer.....
Then the real KILLER is going to continue killing...
So Jim is going to be sitting there at home , happy and at peace and then one day soon very ...he gets the call that theres been a Homicide, he goes to the call and instantly recognizes The Killers MO and realizes Sparma wasnt the killer....
The ending only works if Sparma is the KILLER...
Denzel's character sending the red hair clip ONLY works if Sparma is the real Killer.
If Sparma wasnt the Killer....The ending is a plot hole....
The ending only works if Jim actually believes Sparma was the killer and there are NO MORE killing .....If Sparma wasnt the killer, Jim's character WONT find peace from The red hair clip because The real KILLER will continue killing and JIM will know the red hair clip was a fake and Sparma was innocent....
It is a potential plot hole.
sometime the story ends where it needs to end. the story is about denzel's character. what happens to others after is not that important.
sharesometime the story ends where it needs to end. the story is about denzel's character. what happens to others after is not that important.
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I get thats the point of the story....The movie was clearly written to be ambiguous
the problem still remains, The ending does NOT work if Sparma wasnt the Killer....
It is a MAJOR plot HOLE that KILLS the ending if Sparma wasnt the Killer and The murders continue....
for this movie and ending to truly work...The writer needed to write an ending that doesnt potentially contradict itself
The writer wants the audience to feel like John did a great deed by sparing Jim of His Guilt....Joe clearly lost everything over his mistake and is trying to save Jim from the same fate.....But There is this HUGE "what if" hanging over the ending and Joe's good deed...
If Sparma wasnt The KILLER....literally everything Joe did is absolutely POINTLESS because The real Killer will continue killing and JIM will find out and immediately realize Sparma was innocent .....
heres an article Noting the exact same thing I've been saying.....
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/heres-really-happened-end-little-182500379.html
"Still, there's reason to believe that Jimmy isn't off the hook just yet. If Sparma did do it, the string of murders would come to a stop. If he didn't, then Jimmy must live with the reality that he killed an innocent man, as the murders continue. We may never know the real ending, but that's maybe the motive behind the film. We, too, are left unresolved, but thankfully, we won't have to live out an entire lifetime wondering, as Jimmy may for his."
IMO You are defending this movie to an absurd degree....
If you like the movie thats fine....But even good movies have problems....this is very simply and its quite odd that you are going to such lengths to deny this clear problem
The ending does not work because there is a Potential Massive Plot Hole
Joe's Good deed / Joe trying to save Jim from a live filled with guilt by sending the red hair clip.....Would NOT work if Sparma wasnt The real Killer
at most it might buy Jim a few months of peace until The REAL killer committed a new murder and JIM got the call to investigate it and then realized Sparma was innocent and the real killer is still killing.
Its ok to like the movie but just be honest it about it....You are Ignoring and denying a painfully oblivious potential plot hole
The point is that in THAT moment the cop needed to be pushed from his state of mind. You know, like when someone freaks out and you need to slap them? After the slap they might not go back to freaking out even though the situation didn't change.
Even if after a month a new similar crime would happen it could had been enough that he got out of the dark at that moment and that he had enough time to cope with it.
I think that's what we see Denzel thinking about at the end before he burns the other hair clips. He is wondering the same thing and pondering if he made the right call sending it to him. Denzel wanted to believe Sparma was the killer but in the end realized it might not be him, but at that point there was nothing he could do.
shareAgreed. It's not a plot hole. I like where they ended the movie.
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