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So many things bother me about this film...


Firstly.

Carrie was selfish. Oh, it's HER wedding, it's HER day, it's HER humiliation. Not a single moment of wedding planning was apparently spent with Big ... or his wishes taken into account... for example, he wanted a small wedding and she didn't even inform him until it was done that she'd bumped it up to 200 people. When he turned the car around and told her he was ready, that he'd had a moment of cold feet... she just smashed him with the roses and that was that.
There were multiple signs that he was starting to feel anxious. Over and over. Wouldn't it be common sense on the day of the wedding to call him? Make sure he's doing okay as well? Seriously. There was more than one phone in the building BEFORE she left it.

On top of that, her friend ... who had been in a long term marriage and had a baby with her husband... just found out her husband had been cheating on her and she'd JUST separated from him. Yet here Carrie was, continually going on about Big, about her problems, about this and that. Three friends to care for HER but who cared for Miranda?

I also was annoyed by the whole 'dead and flattened bird on head' thing. Not that stylish. What did the designer do... go out with a sledgehammer and find a pretty bird for Carrie's headpiece? Urgh.

Also... what was with Charlotte's racism towards Mexico? I'm not American and I'm not sure if this is common... a distrust of Mexicans... but seriously. She wouldn't even eat their fruit and veges? Drink their water? I doubt that her bowls reacted to something in the water itself. It was just her anxiety.

In fact, let's just go with all racism. What's with Miranda just barging into someone's apartment while they're still moving out?


I'm just confused by the whole attitude offered by the 'heroines', honestly. Is that how I'm supposed to act as a woman?

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This movie is currently on TV where I am and I watched it and lasted maybe five minutes. Charlotte's pathetic attitude towards Mexico (I don't know if she's racist but she's certainly obnoxious and rude) was the final straw for me. Pathetic!

"When we make mistakes, it's evil. When God makes mistakes, it's nature."

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So neither one of you has ever heard of Americans visiting Mexico being told to not drink the water? She wasn't racist. She was paranoid about the food and water. It's common amongst tourists. "Google" it.

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Haha I'm glad you pointed that out to them blinkysmom.

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It may be common amongst tourists, Blinkysmom, but it doesn't make it any less obnoxious or ridiculous of Charlotte. The four of them were staying at a high-paying resort. It wasn't some "in the jungle" Mexican hut they were living in. Watching Charlotte waste all that food to eat her stupid Poughkeepsie puddings was annoying. She looked like a rich snob in the movie and yes she seemed racist to think that even in the nicest place in Mexico, she couldn't trust anything un-American. Just so close-minded and absurd.

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I don't agree at all. Charlotte is not a snob; she is not the brightest bulb in the chandelleir and it may have gone over her head that a 4 star resort would never compromise their reputation by jeopardizing the health of their patrons. Is it her fault she's rich? You seem angry that she's rich. She can only go by her own frame of reference; rich or poor.

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Charlotte is a well educated woman. She was just being paranoid. Although, the look of disdain on her face when she says "It's Mexico" made me roll my eyes.

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I agreed about how ridiculous Carrie looked in that dress and awful head-dress. She actually looked way better in a couple of the couture dresses she wore for the shoot.

And yeah that was stupid about Charlotte eating her own food. I MEAN!

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Her distrust of drinking the water in Mexico is not without merit. Hell *I'm Mexican-American* with family who live in Mexico City, and the last time I visited there I forgot to avoid drinking the tapwater. Guess who got a major case of the runs a day later?
It took a fistful of Pepto on the busride back to the States to get me back up to speed!
That all written, I took her neuroticism as pretty much on par with the character and not necessarily 'racist'.

A lot of the other points the OP made I concur. Some gals make no bones about the day being "HER" day, so hubbies just hang on for dear life. Her being so single-minded and self-centered is pretty much keeping in character with Carrie. I remember an ep. where she ran into Aiden, the one major guy she dated outside of Big. This was a season or so after their big breakup. She relentlessly pestered him as to why he split & she never heard from him again, and he had to finally shout down her complaints by simply stating "You broke my heart!!" That the guy might've felt bad after the breakup never entered her Gucci-purse-centric mind. It was all about her her her.

And, yeah, where the heck was the friendship lifeboat for Miranda's dilemma? I completely missed that one! Then again, with Samantha over in LA, Carrie caring for her top priority (i.e. herself), and Charlotte off being neurotic, I guess it's not too surprising Miranda had to fend for herself.

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Yeah, because it WAS Mexico. And no matter WHERE you go in Mexico, the water is toxic! Again, Google it. Also, please note that as soon as she ingested said Mexican water, she had horrible diarrhea. Apparently you have never been to Mexico and have never heard of Montezuma's Revenge? Yeah, not fun. It'll put you in hospital. And the only reason the other girls didn't get it was because they were too busy getting drunk on liquor. So being cautious is a good thing and actually NOT snobby. After all, Mexico IS Mexico. Their standards for most things are MUCH lower than American standards. When it comes to water, air pollution, and packaging standards. Please do yourself a favour and educate yourself on the subject.

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LimaLoser-Three years ago our family wen to Ameristar in Cancun, which is an upscale resort, but one of my sons and I ended up with E-coli. We ate all of our meals at the resort. My son recovered, but my digestion has never been the same. I am not trying to justify Charlotte's over-the-top eating pudding at every meal, but it is possible to get sick at an upscale resort. I have traveled to both Jamaica and five countries in Europe with no issues. My internist said it is quite common for Americans to get sick in Mexico and other countries where food preparation is not done in sanitary condition or people literally use the water as a toilet, which goes untreated. To this day I am hesitant to go back to Mexico. It was definately unrealistic for Charlotte to poop her panta, which seemed like 15 minutes after she accidently drank the shower water.

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methinks Limaloser is a Mexican. a VERY angry Mexican!

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Amen. What morons don't know that?! Also, what is racist about not wanting dysentery?!?! Haha! I left Italy with something similar years ago. I have told people about that experience....does that make me racist? Holy crap. What kind of PC nightmare are we living in nowadays. Frightening.

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I'm Mexican and I can tell you it's true, you're not supposed to drink water from the tap because it's not treated. But anyway I didn't see her as racist. She looked to me as a misinformed woman, not really smart. I mean you have to be really stupid for not to trying mexican seafood.

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"I mean you have to be really stupid for not to trying Mexican seafood."

Thank you diemalibu-1! All I keep thinking during that scene is, "She's not even going to try the lobster??" Lol That's the whole point in going to Mexico. If you do get the trots, that's what they make Immodium for. Charlotte really is a trip without the luggage.

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@ neithie-953-118310

I think that was the whole point of the movie. Carrie was selfish, barreled ahead with the wedding without much with consultation with Big, although it was hinted at that he wasn't completely clueless that the guest list was growing. And she finally recognized it after reading her own interview in Vogue. Though in the character's defense, Big had a history of cold feet throughout their relationship. I could see her (or me) getting fed up with his stop and go relationship style.

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You have pretty much nailed all the annoying things for me as well. And I have said as much on other posts on here.

Especially the racist Mexico thing, with the three other girls eating and drinking the same food.

As for the bird on the head...bloody hell, no wonder he didn't get out of the car! And where was his attendant 'best man' to give him moral support? Pretty tacky to have the huge spread after two divorces and his feelings weren't considered at all.

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'Mexican' is not a race.






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I didn't use the term.

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it bothered me that the Housekeeping staff locked the door while cleaning the suite, why? poor Char couldn't use the toy-toy and had to crap herself..


Everyday I learn something new!

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Let's not forget charlotte's constant shrieking...I don't remember her being so annoying in the series.

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Why was she racist for not wanting to drink the water in Mexico
Fist of all Mexico isn't a race but a land

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Generally speaking, you're not really supposed to drink water from the tap or anything in any country (even America...I don't trust it). It wasn't racist at all. Whenever I go to the Caribbean,the people there tell me not to drink the water because filtering isn't as regulated as USA water, and I'm not sure if that's saying much.

I don't mean to sound sleazy,but tease me. I don't want it if it's that easy.

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Oh, but you Should really drink water from the tap in Sweden. It's effing delisciuos. :D

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I just watched this again last night, so I thought I'd chime in, even though this thread is kind of old.

Carrie's behavior throughout the wedding was completely consistent with her character on the show. She was always a very selfish person. That's not to say she doesn't genuinely care about people, but she was very selfish and this is evident many times over the course of the series. The flower scene, I agree to an extent that if she had just stopped to listen for a second they probably could have worked things out. But part of me also agrees with what she did because the damage had been done already. Samantha was at the library telling their guests that the wedding was not going to happen. He had already said to her, "I can't do this", and broken her heart, which you can never take back even if you want to. Even if they did go back to the library and get married, Carrie would wonder for the rest of her life if Big truly wanted to be there. And it's not like this was the first time Big had bailed on her when she asked for a commitment. This was at least his third or fourth chance to get it right, and he blows it again? Nah, he deserved to be whacked with the flowers.

As for not calling someone on the day of the wedding, well, weddings are incredibly hectic. You're so caught up in everything that you don't really have time to explore the possibility that your groom is anxious and won't show up. You just have to have faith and trust that he loves you enough to actually show up and marry you. Carrie is selfish, but Big leaving her at the altar is 100% on him - not on Miranda for her "you're crazy to get married" comment, and not on Carrie for failing to "check on him" the day of. A bride should never have to call her groom on their wedding day to make sure he still wants to marry her. If he wanted out, he had plenty of time to come to that conclusion throughout the engagement. Obviously that rule applies to brides with cold feet too, but in this particular situation it was the groom.

Both Charlotte and Samantha do care about Miranda, but the situations are completely different and so are the women involved. Miranda is decisive, she's independent, and doesn't want to be coddled. Her logic overrides her emotion 99% of the time, so she sees this exactly how she said it: it's tragic, but you move on and you do what you have to do to make your life work with your unexpected circumstances. She's hurting, but can still live her life without noticeably falling apart at the seams. Miranda works through her pain, and that's how she heals. She never breaks down completely, but she has her moments of sensitivity where she lets her emotions get the best of her (by the pool with Samantha, New Year's Eve). Her pain comes in smaller doses, because that's how she can deal with it. She has to break it up. Carrie, a far more openly emotional person, doesn't look at things this way. She's a woman of the "I'm putting my entire life on hold until I feel better" variety. She allows her pain to take her over completely so that she can get it all out in one go, and then heal. She is highly emotional right after it happens, but doesn't really suffer another emotional outburst after that (Valentine's Day notwithstanding, because she was presented with new information, which changes things). Neither woman is mending her broken heart in the "right" or "wrong" way. They're simply doing what they need to do for themselves, and Charlotte and Samantha are supporting them accordingly.

The bird, I agree - hideous. But I think it was fake, right? I hope it was fake. I don't care how "stylish" it might be, you couldn't pay me to wear a dead bird on my head, on my wedding day or any other day.

As others have mentioned here - tourists are generally told when traveling to Mexico not to drink the water. But the rest of it is simply Charlotte's neuroticism. Yes, it's dumb and kind of judgmental, but I think that's why the writers had Charlotte be the one to s**t herself. It was her "punishment" for being judgmental.

How is Miranda barging into someone's apartment racist? It's rude, sure, but not racist.

The film is not a commentary on how women are supposed to act. It's for entertainment only. It's not telling you that this is what you're "supposed" to do. It's telling you a story of four women and how they specifically act and react to certain situations. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Besides the water, I thought Charlotte was acting stupid too. I mean I have traveled to other countries and I will only drink bottled water, but cooked food is fine! She got her comeuppance when she pooped herself IMO! lol.

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This is very well thought out :) Thank you.

I agree with everything you said.

As for pooping her pants, that's what Charlotte gets for eating nothing but chocolate pudding.

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But part of me also agrees with what she did because the damage had been done already. Samantha was at the library telling their guests that the wedding was not going to happen. He had already said to her, "I can't do this", and broken her heart, which you can never take back even if you want to. Even if they did go back to the library and get married, Carrie would wonder for the rest of her life if Big truly wanted to be there. And it's not like this was the first time Big had bailed on her when she asked for a commitment. This was at least his third or fourth chance to get it right, and he blows it again? Nah, he deserved to be whacked with the flowers.

You just have to have faith and trust that he loves you enough to actually show up and marry you. Carrie is selfish, but Big leaving her at the altar is 100% on him - not on Miranda for her "you're crazy to get married" comment, and not on Carrie for failing to "check on him" the day of. A bride should never have to call her groom on their wedding day to make sure he still wants to marry her.


YES. My thoughts exactly. Agreed a million percent.

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Both Charlotte and Samantha do care about Miranda, but the situations are completely different and so are the women involved. Miranda is decisive, she's independent, and doesn't want to be coddled. Her logic overrides her emotion 99% of the time, so she sees this exactly how she said it: it's tragic, but you move on and you do what you have to do to make your life work with your unexpected circumstances. She's hurting, but can still live her life without noticeably falling apart at the seams. Miranda works through her pain, and that's how she heals. She never breaks down completely, but she has her moments of sensitivity where she lets her emotions get the best of her (by the pool with Samantha, New Year's Eve). Her pain comes in smaller doses, because that's how she can deal with it. She has to break it up. Carrie, a far more openly emotional person, doesn't look at things this way. She's a woman of the "I'm putting my entire life on hold until I feel better" variety. She allows her pain to take her over completely so that she can get it all out in one go, and then heal. She is highly emotional right after it happens, but doesn't really suffer another emotional outburst after that (Valentine's Day notwithstanding, because she was presented with new information, which changes things). Neither woman is mending her broken heart in the "right" or "wrong" way. They're simply doing what they need to do for themselves, and Charlotte and Samantha are supporting them accordingly.


This is 2 years old but beautifully said. Couldn't agree more.




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I completely agree about Carrie being selfish. But that was always her character. So dramatic about everything!

The racism thing you brought up..ugh.

I'm so tired of the racism card getting thrown in constantly. Everybody's racist. But.. It's always white people being accused of it too-so that's racism in itself! So I have to disagree with you on that point. Like many others in this thread have mentioned, I don't think Charlotte was directing it at the Mexican people, but the reputation of drinking the water there. I've been to Mexico and it is true about the water.





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I am watching the movie now and it's SO BAD! I liked series, it was fun, but this is depressing, boring, stupid, no story, no characters, and so cringe worthy all the way...
Women are all presented as manipulative b*tches obsessed with weddings, couture, money and "nice things", with no depth, selfish, unlovable, hateful, man hating, borderline psychotic... I just hate them all, not just Carrie. I used to like Mirranda, but here, she is also annoying and I really hate her. "I changed everything for you, I live in B*** now!" (I forgot the city name), "you betrayed us", blahblahblah, Oh the clishe! Just pathetic!
Men, o boy... they are just like empty cans, no soul, no character, just money and yes dear, all for you dear. They cant's stand for themselves, they are so weak, stupid, pathetic, I kinda hated them even more.
I am a female, btw, but this is a disgrace.

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A bitter, jealous female....obviously. Btw---I'm jealous of all of them too! But I'm not as far gone as you seem to be. Thank you for making me feel better about my (apparent) low-level bitterness! Haha. I truly feel better already :-)

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The thing that annoyed me most in the movie is that everyone thinks that what Big did, is worse than what Steve did. am I the only one thinking what Steve did was worse???

And specially when Charlotte sits there at the fashion show, telling Miranda to forgive Steve and then telling Carrie she would kill Big. That's just wrong. Sure Miranda expressed a wanting to forgive him, but still. How is running out on the big wedding you didn't want, worse than cheating on you wife since several years and in extension on you 5 year old son??

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I can kind of see what Charlotte was saying by forgiving Steve. He and Miranda were married and had a son, she felt they should work it out for him and their marriage.

As for Big and Carrie, they were not married, had no ties to each other besides that apartment (they ended up selling). Plus he's done this type of thing to Carrie before....breaking up with her and then getting back together. She's guilty of the same thing.

We have to remember that Charlotte is only getting Carrie's side of things, she has no idea what Big's side is. It's all one sided.

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