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Forbes: Justice League Is The Highest-Grossing Box Office Bomb Ever


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OUCH!

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Wow....I thought Ishtar and Heavens Gate would (adjusted for inflation) hold those types of titles forever!

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haven't seen any of those [nor heard of]. Any good, or as bad as JL?

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BIBLICALLY high budget, low-performing movies.

I mean....Heavens Gate was THE benchmark for cinema failure for YEARS.

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"Heaven's Gate" is notorious. "Dune" is infamous in the sci-fi genre (and, IMHO, deservedly so).

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HEY! Dune is my 2nd favorite movie of all time :(

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I like parts of it, but -- as a whole -- it didn't work for me (then, again, I never read the book). Here's what I say in my review:

The movie starts out promising as Princess Irulan (Virginia Madsen) explains the basics, her head superimposed over a space background. The ensuing floating alien sequence is intriguing and well-executed. But the movie bogs down with Paul's tedious preparation for his mission to Dune. The next sequence switches to the home planet of Baron Vladimir Harkonnen (Kenneth McMillan) and it's so campy with its gay snuff scene that it seems cut & pasted from another movie. Every other scene with the hovering fat bastage is equally goofy. Then there's an uncanny folding-space-to-travel sequence that's cool, but at around the hour mark the movie goes off the rails story-wise and never recovers.


To be fair, two of my close friends hail it.

Still, it's pretty notorious in sci-fi circles.

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The movie has some problems for sure [one of them being that is virtually almost impossible to transcribe the books into the screen, unless folks are ok sitting for 16 hours straight looking at the screen].

But why I like it is because it's NOT exactly like the books. There's a lot of stuff that Lynch simply cut out of the movie to make the story simpler. Other stuff he changed - imho to better - regarding some characters and the tech.

The movie ended up feeling like an acid trip in the good sense. Visuals are still pretty impressive [some simply look hideous for today's standards] and the use of "thoughts" being spoken softly and quietly was pretty bang on.

The gay baron is gay in the book as well. But, at least, in Lynch's version he is somewhat menacing while the more recent tv version turned him into a theatrical queen [hated the tv version and still do... with a passion].

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Yeah, it's definitely somewhat of an acid trip.

I own the DVD and viewed the movie for the first time last December (I picked it up because my friends praised it). My main problem was that the story failed to pull me into the movie, particularly after the hour mark, but I'll be sure to give it another chance sometime.

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It's a slow burner but has some epic moments in it. AND THE SOUNDTRACK!!!!

My absolute favorite part of the movie is when the Atreides family is going to Arrakis and the Space Guild Navigator makes the ship fold into space. Great ambience there.

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Yeah, that unfolding space sequence was eerie and effective.

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Dune is.

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but it totally took away the stakes when Hal Jordan and Barry Allen came back.

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Well...Forbes is the only place giving it this "title" and you have to think about what he is saying. It's not like Heaven's Gate or Ishtar at all. Those films were outright bombs that made no money at all while this film has made a ton but not as much as was expected considering it's budget and the iconic characters involved.

It's a silly discussion as there have been quite a lot of movies that have been more expensive "bombs" than this by a country mile...many of them by *cough* Disney *cough*....Cars 3...The Good Dinosaur...Alice Through the Looking Glass...Tomorrowland...The Lone Ranger...Mars Needs Moms...John Carter.

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And yet none of that negates the fact that Justice League is making the type of money their first solo Superman movie made. Their version of Avengers for the DCCU not only won't crack a billion--it won't even make as much money as any other solo movie other than Man of Steel. Their large, ambitious Justice League team-up movie made the lowest box office of the entire DCCU.

The movie they rushed toward, foregoing solo movies for half the League, is the one that fell on its ass the hardest.

The moral of the story here? Don't rush a fcking cinematic universe just to try and catch up with a rival company. They were burned for doing so and deservedly so.

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Is it? Probably...

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I still can't believe you successfully trolled this forum for 3 months!

You are the winner!

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then it wasn't a box office bomb.

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Not an outright bomb, no. That term just sounds better in a headline than "Movie that underperformed beyond the studio's expectations".

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Fanboys need to get over it. They made money.

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Confirmed...

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I think the Han Solo movie might take this "honor" away from Justice League.

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Ouch!

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It definitely should have done better and been better. I don't hate it though.

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What do you think about Shazam? The trailer looks great. It's nice to see a DCU movie that doesn't use just gray tones.

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I think it looks like it has promise and I'm looking forward to seeing it.

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