You know what, I just read something similar in John Nolte's review of Justice League.
Here's a few paragraphs of it, where he mentions the third THOR movie and then takes WB to task for their poor product:
"We are five titles into DC’s extended universe, and Warner Bros., a studio that has been producing movies for around 100 years, is still being serially-humiliated by Marvel Studios, which is only 24 years old and did not really start producing its own films until around 2006.
And while the sycophantic Hollywood trades pretend that Justice League’s $110 million opening is a big win, the truth is that Batman v. Superman opened to $166 million and The Avengers opened to $207 million. Everything is going the wrong way for DC. Justice League was supposed to be a climax, the chapter America was building all of its anticipation to see, the one in which our heroes assemble.
The truth, though, is that Thor, a B-character in the Marvel world, just released his third movie and it is probably going to kick the collective ass of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, the Flash, Aquaman, and Cyborg.
And all of this fail comes down to an audience rapidly losing faith in the quality of DC’s storytelling, a faith that will not be resurrected by Justice League."
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TwistedAcrobat (1725)
7 years ago
I have to agree with most of the review. It's kind of hard to imagine that the 3 of the most relevant and iconic pop culture characters [in this case Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman] lose to a B character no one could give a damn about till the movie Avengers came out.
It's even more egregious when these 3 characters meeting on the Silver Screen for the first time lost to another CBM of a handful of minor characters from a Comic Book series that only the die-hard fans [of said comic books] actually recognize [with the exception of Spider Man and Hulk].
Some 10 years ago, people would ask "Iron Man...who? Ant-what? Nick Furry... Furious... Fewbie?" and now they immediately say "Oh, you mean Robert Downey Jr" or "ah, the shrinking guy" and "good ol' Samuel L. Jackson".
For the people [who are not Comic Book readers] and go to the movies to watch a DCEU CBM their reaction is more akin to "since when is Superman a moping cry baby?"; "I'm sorry... who is Martha again and why should I care?"; "why in all fucks is this movie so goddamn dark?"
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billbrown7071 (3194)
7 years ago
OMG its a Trainwreck well beyond any comprehension.....lol JL is set to make 97 Million on OW!
A Sub 100 Million dollar opening for JL.....
like Its OVER....The DCEU is OVER....
WB has to recast Affleck and have to at this point, focus on solo movies....
The Flash is probably DEAD now....JL 2 is DEAD
MOS2 is dead, They got to recast Cavil
WB's got to complete rebot everything but Wonder Woman and Aquaman
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TwistedAcrobat (1725)
7 years ago
They won't reboot, though. It's like those hardheaded idiots who know they lost the game but still say "best out of 3... best out of 5.... best out of 10"
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TandyMan (11096)
7 years ago
They better not scrap MOS2. That's the only movie I actually wanted. Not all this other crap.
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DarthRoger (867)
7 years ago
I remember like it was yesterday, that night I went to see BVS with a friend who's a gigantic DC fan. The atmosphere was electric and I wore my Superman tee while he sported his Batman tee. The theater was packed with others wearing Supes and Bats and Wonder Woman tees and when the lights dimmed, you could hear a gasp of excitement from the crowd.
That sadly, is the only good memory from that night. At the end of the movie, the lights went up and there was this heavy shuffling from nearly all the viewers as they headed for the exits, some murmuring here and there but for the most part, it reminded me of folks leaving a funeral visitation. We actually stuck around till all the credits had scrolled off and then left. My buddy was quiet about the movie for several days but when he finally talked about it, you could tell the disappointment had given way to some anger.
Even now, I still can't believe WB allowed this travesty to come to the screen. It has greatly damaged their credibility to the point that I don't trust them to make a decent comic book movie anymore, notwithstanding WW.
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TwistedAcrobat (1725)
7 years ago
My memory form the screening is mumbling, more mumbling, "whaaaaaat?", "loool that's stupid", "Marthaaaaaaaaaa" and my wife yawning.
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billbrown7071 (3194)
7 years ago
BvS was my second most anticipated movie of all time....words truly cant describe how excited I was for the film....I was even a fan of Snyders before BvS....
but BvS was literally the single worst theatrical experience of my life....unlike others, instead of relentless defending an Awful movie, I was angry at WB and Snyder for ruining this once in a life time film....
JL would have been my single most anticipated movie of all time had BvS been good....But I literally couldn't even get remotely excited as long as Snyder was directing the film...
the facts are BvS was as big and as important of a film as you can get....and if Snyder truly could have done any better, he would have....there was no reason to expect he could improve with JL...NOt when you had a movie like BvS, BvS was Everything for WB and DC, It was going to Start a DC universe, it was bring the 2 biggest heroes ever together for the first....Snyder Literally put his all into that film...and BvS truly was the best Snyder could do....so for me, that simply left me hopeless going into JL...I knew Snyder could not do any better, as long as Snyder was directing JL...It was DOOMED
I mean there is no calculating the damage Snyder has done to DC with his 3 movies....Batman was A Proven Billion character before Snyder got a hold of him....Superman has been Universally HATED in all 3 of Snyders films...
this isn't as easy and rebooting and getting rid of Snyder....The next 1 or 2 Batman films and Superman Films are going to Suffer, Audiences trust are going to have to be Won back..
and Worst of all the JL franchise is dead for at least 7 years....I mean Snyder Literally KILLED A Franchise that had the potential to make 4 or 5 Billion dollars with 3 films
Imagine IF The Avengers was terrible and Bombed....Disney would literally be missing out at a franchise that already made them 3 Billion and will like make another 3 Billion in the next 2 years
JL is dead for WB...
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billbrown7071 (3194)
7 years ago
You almost cant calculate the money Snyder has cost them....
With A Successful MOS,BvS and JL film could have came....
3 JL films making at least 3 billion
3 Batman films with Affleck as Batman making up to 3 Billion
2 More MOS sequel that would have had HUGE jumps in box office from BvS and JL being great
3 Flash films making at 1.5 Billion +(500 Million A film)
these are all DEAD NOW!
instead they have to start over, reboot, recast and suffer the effect of BvS and JL for the first film or 2 until the build audiences trust Back....
WB and Snyder Literally failed as badly as you can possibly fail at trying to make a cinematic universe...
Wonder Woman is the SOLE brightspot and now they got to hope JL doesn't hurt WW2
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JohnnyUtahx (161)
7 years ago
Warner/DC will never EVER have Marvel level success until they get Hack Snyder away from their product. I simply cannot comprehend why they continue trusting this clown
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