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Why was bale going through opiate withdrawal in prison from crack?

posted 14 years ago by deathofseasonsxg
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Unless he smoked constantly, which he diddn't because he disappeared to the crack house to get high and his family would not have been ok or stupid enough not to know that he was smoking crack in such a crowded house, he had been sober many times seeing as crack only lasts like 20 minutes. Too many movies are completely unrealistic about drugs like this, they see a drug addict going through a sweaty, delusional withdrawal and assume all hard drugs do this. Fora movie going so hard for realism this really bothered me.

[–] JRod75 14 years ago

With a little research you could easily answer your own question.

Q.) What are the symptoms of crack withdrawal?
A.) Crack withdrawal symptoms include but are not limited to:

agitation
depression
intense craving for the drug
extreme fatigue
anxiety
angry outbursts
lack of motivation
nausea/vomiting
shaking
irritability
muscle pain
disturbed sleep

http://www.drugrehab.co.uk/FAQ-crack.htm

Dicky was a junkie for years before he cleaned up, his family was in denial. Not unrealistic at all.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.- The Dude

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[–] JRod75 14 years ago

Scientology or not it doesn't change the facts. Google exists so you can find this information yourself. Anyone who thinks a drug like crack is easy to kick is delusional.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.- The Dude

[–] jennerationX 14 years ago

I would also think that they used the real Dicky Eklund to talk about the experiences he went through while in jail. Even if the symptoms were 'all in his head', they could manifest themselves as physical symptoms.

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[–] JRod75 14 years ago

P.S- I noticed you didn't deny being a $cientologist xD

Really? I didn't think I needed to. The information in the link about withdrawal is correct regardless of which website you get it from.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.- The Dude

[–] kwoods-5 14 years ago

And you still haven't denied it.

"I do not drink coffee. I am fourteen."

[–] JRod75 14 years ago

Because it's so stupid, I won't answer out of principal. Completely irrelevant to the Original Post.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.- The Dude

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[–] JRod75 14 years ago

FYI- I'm not a scientologist. Hope this sets your paranoid mind at ease.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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[–] brupey-1 13 years ago

I won't answer out of principal

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Is that the principal of your school?

[–] bmalone135 14 years ago

who cares if the poster is a Scientologist or not. Is this a Scientology board? No. It's a movie board about The Fighter.

You keep pointing out that the poster didn't deny being a scientologist. Well, YOU haven't addressed the points the poster brought up. Your only response was "that link is to a Scientology site, so it MUST be wrong"

[–] dig003 14 years ago

The OP may not have clearly explained his position, or defended his post, but he's technically correct.

Most users suffering from crack withdrawal tend to sleep excessively and become very irritable and agitated, with alternating spells of depression and anxiety that generally last a couple of days as crack is flushed out of your system relatively quickly. The film, which I loved, showed Dicky suffering from seizure like convulsions, sweating, and hallucinations that are more commonly seen with opiate withdrawal (among other things, of course).

It's easy to use Google, but sometimes it's a little harder to interpret the results.

[–] jebgeorgesuk 14 years ago

OP had it right and wrong. He ran off for crack binges every few days. But he was drunk all the freakin time. Drinking can cause all those w/d symptoms alone. Opiates were never mentioned or depicted.

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[–] jamiekincaid 14 years ago

It's my understanding that many crack/meth addicts will use opiate substances as buffers. Makes the crash landing a little softer. I don't think it was addressed in the movie and I have no idea if the real Dicky did this but, if that were the case, it could account for some of his withdrawal symptoms.

Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.

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[–] jamiekincaid 14 years ago

Okay, relax...I get what you were saying and I don't disagree. I was answering the OPs question with a possible explanation. I have no issue with your argument with the scilon. Argue away. However, as to the OP, Dicky could have been addicted to some type of opiate. It may not have been his primary issue but if he had been smoking crack enough and for a long enough period of time and lacing it with an opiate or just straight hits of some type of opiate to soften the crash he could also have been an opiate addict. This would account for the symptoms shown in the movie.

I have no basis for knowing whether this applies to Dicky or not. It's common with crack and meth heads but certainly doesn't apply to all of them. Could have just been a screw up. Mark seems smarter than that though....but who knows.

Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.

[–] byrne-patrick 14 years ago

I think you nailed it. Even though it wasn't addressed in the film, I read that Dicky had back problems and had been abusing opiate painkillers for years. I'd guess that could be part of the reason for the withdrawal.

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[–] chinawhite252 14 years ago

that was cocaine withdrawal, he was smoking alot. crackheads go on binges for days bro, withdrawal wouldn't hit him for a little while, because he smoked all the time.

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[–] chinawhite252 14 years ago

ok, none of you have EVER meet a crackhead, or had to sit in a crackhouse before. plus, his wasn't useing a small pipe, they were use a bong-type crackpipe, a hit that big could easily kill someone, still that cocaine doesn't cause withdrawal? why did they outlaw it in 1914 than?

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[–] chinawhite252 14 years ago

mike, check the name bro, i know all about it my friend. I'm not comparing it to opiate or benzo withdrawal, i'm just sayin it would still suck. crack and heroin are the two drugs you talk about that i haven't taken. Plus dude, remember, what is nothing for you and I, because we have been threw worse, a normal person would be hurting. Just wondering, but how many days in a row were you doing soft/ and hard? i seen people go 5 maybe 6 days, and at that point, they would have killed 50 babys for a 20 rock.

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[–] liberagatta 13 years ago

Serious question. If you are in jail and clearly addicted and going thru withdrawal, wouldn't they give you meds to lessen the withdrawal? I've never been in jail, never will be, but I've been to a 3 day Detox and with a couple of pills, it was pretty easy.

"Leave the gun. Take the canolis."

[–] Verdoux-1 14 years ago

cocaine doesn't cause withdrawal? why did they outlaw it in 1914 than?

I have no idea, but not because of withdrawal symptoms, that's for sure.

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[–] everything_morbid 14 years ago

If Dicky was doing enough crack to have an HBO documentary film crew follow him around to film a documentary about crack addiction, then I would guess that he probably does a lot of crack. Pretty much any website about crack withdrawal lists the same symptoms, and I’m also pretty sure the church of scientology doesn’t own every website.

[–] DanaShelbyChancey 14 years ago

Dicky was addicted, to the point he appeared brain damaged at first.

When he was detoxing in the jail cell, my husband said, they should not let that happen like that, you can die from detoxing without help.

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[–] chinawhite252 14 years ago

bobo, i was given adderall for ADHD, took ONLY as the bottle said, i lost 70 pounds in like 45 days, so i quit cold turkey. Head hurt bad, and joints were real sore, so let me tell you dude, no matter what a Doctor says, stimulants cause withdrawal, not at all like an opiate, but still it was not at all fun.

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[–] LaraLaEvil 14 years ago

Yes, I can tell you why "Requiem For a Dream" was innaccurate regarding the drug scenes. When the characters were shooting up, a close-up would show their pupils enlarging. In fact, with heroin (and other opiates) the pupils get tiny like pinpoints.
I must add though that I love "Requiem For a Dream" :)

[–] MayKasa 14 years ago

I thought the same thing, deathofseasonsxg. That was opiate withdrawal. No such thing for cocaine withdrawal. To the contrary, he probably would have been sleeping for days.

[–] Mackie_Shilstone 14 years ago

""ok, none of you have EVER meet a crackhead, or had to sit in a crackhouse before. plus, his wasn't useing a small pipe, they were use a bong-type crackpipe, a hit that big could easily kill someone""

It doesn't matter how big the f'ing pipe is! It matters how big the ROCK that you put on the PIPE is!! Why would you have a name like Chinawhite and tell people who/where they haven't been and tell people they don't know about withdrawel from certain substances when all you went through was a crash from speeding too damn long on Aderall??

Then you say, "oh, look at the name bro, I been there". There is a word for people like you and that word is POSER. I don't know why you would want to have a label like that on yourself, as it is not a positive thing to be bragging about.