Except that the stories both films told weren't in any possible sense 'the untold story', but a brand-new and thoroughly lame farrago.
We don't of course know the true story of either King Arthur or Robin Hood, or even if there really is any such thing. But you could imagine a historically-plausible one, and it might make a wonderful movie (there have been some brilliant fictional versions of 'the real King Arthur' - e.g. by Rosemary Sutcliff, Mary Stewart, Joy Chant). It just would be so discontinuous with the legend that you'd be better off not advertising it as being 'a King Arthur / Robin Hood movie' as that would just confuse and disappoint your audience.
I liked aspects of it very much, for instance I thought it had a great cast and the performances were strong across the board.
Also Nottingham seemed very real and lived in. I don't know what Ridley Scotts trick is to making his locations seem so much more real than in other films, but he does have some trick. Maybe its the sheer level of detail that's being picked up subconsciously.
Aside from that though I thought it was quite dull and forgettable, with a weak story and weak villain in Mark Strong. Also while I found Russell Crowe gave a good performance, he just wasn't Robin Hood, he's just too old and bulky.
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To each their own: there really wasn't a single thing about 'the little village of Nottingham' or Marian's home that convinced me as real places at all, let lone real medieval places.
And a real medieval lady struggling to keep her manor going and being raided by feral kids would have used her bow to kill one of them, not fire a silly 'warning shot' that didn't actually warn them but on the contrary told them that it was safe to rob from her. And that would have been received with resounding cheers from all the villagers, even including that kid's own relatives. These boys were threatening the survival of the whole community.
We don't of course know the true story of either King Arthur or Robin Hood, or even if there really is any such thing.
The only problem with this is that we do know. Most people are just unaware, particularly authors and enthusiasts that have their own vested interests at stake, not necessarily the truth, blinded by their own conviction. Or historians stubbornly refusing to accept new information that conflicts with their outdated/indoctrinated teachings. And in the case of King Arthur, we basically know with absolute certainty, without room for doubt, eliminating all other possible candidates, including Lucius Artorius Castus (or his great-grandson), whom the film in question is incorrectly based on.
King Arthur's real name was, in fact, Arthur, not any other variant, especially Artorius, because the name Arthur does not derive from Latin. Nor is it a variant of Arthun, Athrwys or Armel. The name was wholly Irish, emerging from the Scythian-Milesian 'Artur'. The Romans never conquered Ireland and Irish names were not influenced in any way by the Romans. In fact, the root of the name Arthur can be found as far back as the 5th century BC, when Artur mes Delmann was King of the Lagain. It was centuries later that Augustus Caesar established the Roman Empire in 27 BC and, by 476 AD, the Empire had crumbled to extinction in the West, nearly a hundred years before King Arthur of the Britons was born.
Despite all the literary speculations as to whose name might've been changed to Arthur by the romancers, and notwithstanding all the regional tourism propaganda of today, the fact is that there were actually two royal Arthurs recorded by that very name in the 6th century.
Ignoring the wrong Arthur for the sake of summarising, the Arthur of the Grail legends is recorded as fighting at the Battle of Camelyn in the year 600, west of Falkirk in Scotland - a battle which is detailed in the Chronicles of the Picts and Scots. This Arthur was undoubtedly the famed king of the Grail stories. Not only was he proclaimed High King and Sovereign Commander of the Britons in 574, but he was the only recorded Arthur ever born as the son of a Pendragon. He was Prince Arthur of Dalriada, the son of King Aedán mac Gabrán of Scots, and his mother was Ygerna d'Avallon, whose own mother, Viviane del Acqs, was the recognised Lady of the Lake. Born in 559, he was the only Arthur with a son named Modred and a sister called Morgaine (referred to in Royal Irish Academy texts as 'Muirgein, daughter of Aedán in Belach Gabráin'), just as related in the Grail legends.
Arthur's primary seat was at Carlisle - the City of the Legion (Caer Leon) - from where he controlled the military defence of the English-Scottish border country. Arthur mac Aedán is cited in St. Adamnan of Iona's 7th century Life of St. Columba; his kingly installation by the druid Merlin Emrys is recorded in the Chronicle of the Scots; his legacy is upheld by the Celtic Apostolic Church of Scotland, while famous conflicts (including the Battle of Badon Hill) with which he is traditionally associated are recorded in the Chronicles of Holyrood and of Melrose, the Irish Tigernach Annals and the Books of Leinster and Ballymote.
The details behind the origins of the real King Arthur and his family who inspired the Grail stories - who are themselves steeped in esoteric history - are rich and extensive. As is Robin Hood's, although in his case there is a name change and several variants, but it's the same person.
When the Pagan symbolisms injected into the Robin Hood legends are removed to reveal the historical figure behind the romances, so is much of the mystery surrounding him. His story is more politically orientated and revolves around the Magna Carta, the Pope, royal titles, brotherly betrayal, religious differences, excommunication and the battle for land rights.
Robin is an alternative for the name Robert, while the Hood definition (originally Hod, Hodd, or Hode) is an elfin style related to the Teutonic sprite Hodekin. Robin Hood's legitimate name, following excommunication, was Fitz Odo, or alternatively Fitzooth. Or, more aptly, Robert of Fitzoath. Robert belonged to the House of Vere, a descendant of King Aubrey, Steward of the Royal Forest. His own family name of de Verriéres en Forez had been shortened by that time to de Vere. So when you imagine the real Robin Hood, you can either think of Robert de Vere, a regal nobleman, or Robert of Fitzoath, an excommunicated nobleman.
Much of this information is documented in the famous Sloane Manuscripts, including the real Robin Hood's date of birth of 1160. But when academics are taught a false history, they can't see the pattern to connect the dots. In essence, they can't see the forest for the trees.
In esoteric lore these are accepted truths because the documented accounts are available. They're just not heavily published or more easily accessible because for centuries the information was suppressed for empirical motivations and religious oppression. And that's not to say anything of the real Camelot, the origins of Excalibur, or Robin Hood's Albigensian lineage, all of which existed. The surface has not even been scratched.
In essence, they can't see the forest for the trees.
On the contrary. Academics are trained to be fully aware of both the individual trees and the forest as a whole. Which is why, regarding the "real" Robin Hood or the "real" Arthur, they are fully aware of the many hypotheses regarding the possible historical identities of those two literary characters, and usually refrain from claiming that they KNOW he was this or that.
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Much of this information is documented in the famous Sloane Manuscripts
Of which precisely one, BL Sloane 780 purports to provide any detail about Robin Hood and is simply a rehash of existing ballads assembled into a prose account of his 'life' which dates from c1600. It also signally fails to mention any of the garbled 'information' you appear to credit it with.
Very very interesting theories. I love history so I'll definitely look into your ideas. They may in fact be correct. It certainly seems very plausible that the tale would migrate east from Ireland.
Sorry but you lost me when you said that Camelot and Excalibur "really existed." They didn't. Poets through the ages kept adding to the Arthurian myth, with Lancelot, for example, coming late to the party, sometime (I believe) in the 14th century.
Saying that the myth itself can be LOOSELY traced to a single person ruling over a certain patch of land in Britain's dark ages is one thing, and entirely believable, but claiming that the Lady of the Lake, Merlin, the round table, Excalibur, etc etc have any kind of basis in history is nothing but wishful thinking.
There was no King Arthur and there was no Robin Hood. Get over your "England is still great" kick. England is nothing more than a racist colonial has been. Bang up job "civilizing" Africa by the way.
More babbling. I don't know why the mere mention of history brings you out in a rash, and causes you to fantasise an '"England is still great" kick', and do you know, I really don't care.
Well...I have visited Nottingham, and I found this movie gritty and realistic.
We can never have too many heroic tales, and this film AND King Arthur, are highly enjoyable. Intriguing stories, settings and superb actors. Apparently, the humorously entertaining scenes, were sadly not fully appreciated by some. Prince John and the Sheriff are hilariously evil.
Russell Crowe and Ridley Scott, are strong reasons to see this Robin Hood, right the wrongs in not so-merry, olde England.