And the episodes were awful compared to the rest of the series. I cant believe what a disaster this show became.
Stupid to behead Missandei, stupid to kill Dany.
This once great show turned into a flaming pile of shit.
And to top it all off, what was to be their 'epic Helm's Deep' style battle at Winterfell, fell flat on its face with horrible battle strategies, camera cutting away from our favorite characters every time they were in trouble, and it was just plain too dark. I don't understand how the execs at HBO accepted any of that.
The guy who does the music is exempt from any criticism--as that was the only thing consistent throughout the entire season.
yeah, some of the music was great - I liked it right before they killed the Night King.
sharecharacters bathing in zombies that are deadly with weapons as shown when they obliterated lesser characters in seconds and charged over a whole army then going toe to toe in close combat.
Main character bathing in white walker, cuts away for ad-break. comes back to them and they have 2 zombies near them which they fend off without much of a sweat.
Sam Tarley was having a white walker bath in one scene. We saw those mutha fuckas slice "northman #5" apart like a ninja earlier!
I hated to see Missandei die ... I had a major crush on her ... nor did I care for what an asshole Grey Worm become after that. I thought the last season was fine and they did a good job to tying everything together.
shareShe was a great character, why was she on that ship? She came in about season 3, had a long romantic relationship with Greyworm, part of the beauty of that was that she loved him despite the genitalia issue, - this close to the end the faithful audience wants them to find happiness.
And Cersei knew she had a bargaining chip in Missandei - you don't throw that away. Such bad writing.
Yeah, they made a great couple. Missandei was really lovely, the best looking woman on the series i thought.
share> And Cersei knew she had a bargaining chip in Missandei - you don't throw that away.
> Such bad writing.
I disagree.
Cersei ALWAYS chose lashing out at her enemies over strategically good moves.
Jon Snow killing Dany for the good of all only then to be sacrificed by the people he helped - how would the Unsullied even know if he was in exile or not???
Would the Unsullied really be so tolerant about their Queen being killed? They strike me as the type who would quite happily fight for a lot less and even just to die.
Yes, this bothered me too...even if we all knew that going to live North with the Wildlings is what Jon ultimately wanted. I think that's what I liked best about Jon and his adopted father and brother..none of them really wanted any part of all the political shenanigans but had a strong sense of duty toward what others wanted of them..Even to their own detriment..
Look at how much grief that Iron Throne caused everyone that pursued it and everyone around them. And now they're all dead too.
But it felt like it would've been sweeter if it had been what Jon choose to do rather than be sentenced and ostracized while everyone else was acting all giddy because his sacrifice gave them all exactly what they wanted. Instead of being burned to death by Drogon, for instance.
I have to guess they had to compromise for the moment to keep the peace but knew that the only way to release Jon from his obligations was to make it seem like he had no choice.
The gate closing behind him was his final passage from obligation and duty so now he gets to live his own life.
Would the unsullied be so tolerant? Didn't look that way to me but it's just another issue the writers didn't want to address in their fast forward to the end.
Maybe without his Queen's guidance Greyworm was unable to order the slaughter of people he knew.
Would the Unsullied really be so tolerant about their Queen being killed? They strike me as the type who would quite happily fight for a lot less and even just to die.
They belong to diversity quota. It wouldn't be politically correct to portray them raiding King's Landing.
Yes, it was absolutely politically correct how Grey Worm started killing the Lannister soldiers that had surrendered and insisted on executing the survivors of the battle.
Damn SJWs! They make all the black people do only good things!
Not to concoct, but to produce, in terms of talent availability and CGI rendering capability.
To which I reply, “Bunk.” Westworld deserves 2 years between seasons. This was hubris.
It took 2 years to shoot and edit the episodes. Most of the story they already had written.
shareIt was becoming more style over substance without the books, none more so than in this season. Very little imagination or creativity in the writing. It's like they couldn't be bothered thinking up more clever ways to resolve situations because of their rush to get to the end. "How shall we get rid of Cersei?" Producers: "Hmmm let's just have the building collapse on her. Next." "How shall do away with the Night King and his army?" Producers: "Hmmm let's just have Arya jump out of nowhere and stab him. Next."
With the 2 year break I thought that meant they were giving it the time they needed to get it right, or as good as they could make it. But instead it felt like they gave themselves 2 months.
They had Arya as the killer of the night king around the time season 6 was airing. But yes the show changed with the battle of the bastards episode. They had 6 seasons of setup, and it became all about paying that stuff off. A lot of first time for the show stuff, like dragons in westeros, Jon meets Dany, everyone meets everyone in the dragon pit...
shareYeah I heard they decided early on about Arya killing the NK. They could at least have written a better way for her to kill him. The jumping out of nowhere is just some rushed silliness.
shareI’m fine with Arya dealing out the final blow to the Night King, but before that there should have been a final showdown with Jon & the NK.
Something cool, like in HardHome where Jon fought the White Walker. Then when Jon was losing & going to die - she leaps out of nowhere & stabs.
At least then it wouldn’t of been so quick, bam, it’s over.
Hey, they couldn’t do that, because Jon was busy doing other extremly important stuff. Namely screaming at zombie Viserion.
Joking aside, I like your idea.
Hah! True. Now that you mention Jon screaming at zombie Viserion.
I just realized how the show really should of killed the Night King. Instead of Arya jumping out before the NK kills Brandon... Jon jumps out from behind the tree & starts screaming - so loud, & so long that the Night King & his White Walkers all explode from sheer annoyance.
I think one should distinct between things you didn’t like because you hoped they’d turn out differently and things that were done badly storywise.
For example: I hated that Missandei got killed, too, because I liked her a lot. But how is her death any more "stupid" (storywisely speaking) than, well, any other death we’ve seen in eight seasons?
There were a lot of flaws, sure, and the "Game of Thrones Season 8 Pitch Meeting" video that Atreides linked to in antoher thread (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAhKOV3nImQ) works them out beautifully and in an funny way (though not completely unflawed itself), but I do have the feeling that SOME of the harsh criticism roots in being disappointed because things didn’t end the way people hoped for/expected/predicted.
Moreover, I’d be very careful in condemning the showrunners as long as we don’t know which ideas for the ending were theirs, and which things were done because GRRM told them to do so. (Of course, the trouble is that we might never know which are which.)
Just my two cents.
IMHO it took two years to first change GRRM's ending to something the higher-ups and not the writers liked, and then the rest of the time was devoted to condensing and editing it and cramming everything into six episodes, until it read like the "young readers' version" of "Game of Thrones".
Because yeah, I have heard that they changed GRRM's original ending.