First time i watched Chuck and i can't help feeling betrayed. It makes me feel that everything that happen didn't matter at all. Sure they ended with a kiss but come on she didnt love him anymore. Yes they want people to imagine the future , but I don't want that. If i wanted something like that might as well just give the pilot and make me imagine the rest of the show lol
Big fail imo on a show that i actually enjoyed till this point.
Just finished watching the series on Netflix.....didn't realise it existed. From the first episode I was hooked, well acting, funny moments, good fight scenes and then they totally mess it up with the usual dumb ass ending!!!! WTF! Why do series creators always have to ruin things.....just let them be happy FFS! In my mind she got her memory back, but would have liked some clarification.
Guys, of course she got her memory back. It's a show where things always magically work out in the end. It's a feel good show. A fairy tale. The only bad thing that really happened to Chuck that stuck was his dad dying and I wouldn't have been surprised that if the show lasted it would have turned out he didn't really die. My only disappointment with the finale was that it was the finale and there aren't more episodes to watch.
i am currently re-watching the show and I have been trying to see if they left clues about the likelihood of Sarah memories about Chuck. After Morgan was the interest he says that it seemed that it erased the unimportant things, such as who Luke Skywalker is. In the scene where Morgan in on the roof with Verbansky and the helicopter ends up blowing up, Chuck is able to get Morgan to remember something from childhood that he didn't originally remember and Chuck was able to talk him down from shooting the guy who was attempting to escape.
There is also the incident where Chuck is being held in the jungle and the scientist/doctor is planning to erase all memories except for the intersect, but Chuck doesn't seem to lose anything and is able to be brought back by Sarah.
While they never really explore the ramifications of the memory loss due to the new intersect it seems they provided a few examples where not all memory is lost due to things being done to the brain.
I hold out hope that this was their intention and that Sarah will at least re-gain some of her memories. I also think the show is about how they Chuck and Sarah keep making it back to each other, and are always there for each other no matter what happens and so they will end up together, regardless of the memories returning.
I'm tired of great series emotionally investing us in their characters and stories for years, and crapping up the finale, by turning around all they build for years. Happened with HIMYM, happened with Chuck.
The thing is, whether she loves Chuck still or not, all the character development she had over the past 5 years, which is one of the most important things about the story, is gone when she 'resets' to five years earlier.
Of course Sarah showed signs of regaining her memory, but where is the sense of finality and closure that a series finale is supposed to deliver? Why leave us hanging?
One of the worst story lines they could have taken for the finale.
It happens with so many shows. I can't think of that many TV Shows that end well. I'm not sure what the reason is, it could be several things. It could be that the writer's have exhausted all of their ideas, it could be that they were out of touch with the fans, it could simply be a lack of desire to continue on.
But what is clear, is that after everything that both Chuck and Sarah went through and experienced in their lives prior to meeting each other, and in the years that followed since they met each other, they both deserved an ending far greater than the pile of trash we got in the end and Fedak and Schwartz lost me and many others as a fan I'm sure.
Sounds to me like Sarah remembered the most important thing: what it was like to kiss Chuck. From there, who knows? I mean, you don't ask someone to kiss you if you don't feel anything for them. And you sure as hell don't ask to hear their story again.
What happened in the end wasn't the problem. What got them there in the first place was.
I guess that's also what my gripe is about. The actual final scene itself wasn't that bad, but between the bullet train and the beach, everything that happened between there is what I consider to be 'trash'
The Chuck finale is still the most disappointing to me for these reasons:
1. It completely destroyed Sarah's character development. 2. Nobody other than Chuck seemed to care about Sarah. At all. 3. Ellie, who had been a mother to Chuck all series long, packed her bags and left. 4. The memory wipe arc was very uncreative. The final three episodes felt more like The Vow, The Notebook, or the Full House finale than Chuck. 5. The finale wasn't sympathetic to how the memory loss affected Sarah (losing friendships with everyone, losing her growth as a person, her improved relationships with her parents). It was only about how her memory loss affected Chuck. 6. Because of the above, the finale reduced Sarah to a love interest, and a prize to be won (similar to what the Dexter writers did with Yvonne's character in season 8). She was objectified. IMO it was disrespectful to Yvonne. 7. This was a comedy. A feel good show that was supposed to make people laugh and feel better. But a large percentage of fans felt depressed, angry, and upset. 8. The supporting cast was totally underutilized. 9. Lame villain. 10. Open ending was not fitting for a show like Chuck.
5. The finale wasn't sympathetic to how the memory loss affected Sarah (losing friendships with everyone, losing her growth as a person, her improved relationships with her parents). It was only about how her memory loss affected Chuck. 6. Because of the above, the finale reduced Sarah to a love interest, and a prize to be won (similar to what the Dexter writers did with Yvonne's character in season 8). She was objectified. IMO it was disrespectful to Yvonne.
Thanks for that. This was my first visit to the board for maybe a year or so, having just found myself thinking about the show again. In-particular, I was wondering about the end of Chuck, given that I've still never actually seen any of Season 5 (despite the complete blu-ray series sitting on my shelf for the last few years).
I have, however, long since spoiled myself on the outcome. Indeed, it was spoiling myself on the events of 'Last Details' and 'Cliffhanger' (which I've also never watched) back in 2011 that initially led me to quit the show - as I had zero interest in seeing Sarah reduced to helpless love interest/victim yet again.
I followed season 5 in terms of episode recaps only, with the intention of perhaps returning to the show if things improved. Hence why I've still not seen that final season. Still, despite knowing the 'meat and potatoes' of how the series ended, primarily regarding Sarah's memory loss, I have occasionally wondered (as I did today) just how that was handled.
To look at the reaction at the time, and the feelings still often expressed by this board, I always had the feeling that Sarah's memory loss was never really addressed as something tangible that actually happened to her, but was instead just all about how it affected Chuck. It's always been my concern that the show would have used Sarah's memory loss, just as it so often did with her, as a motivator for Chuck rather than something in her own narrative.
Your comments above have basically confirmed those fears for me. Which means I guess it's gonna be a few more years at least before that box-set comes down from the shelf.
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Just like I replied to the other poster, the show was a love story, they were both each others love interests, of course some times he saved her, other times she saved him. I don't see the problem
I hated the finale too, but I disagree with 5 and 6. The show wasn't about about catching bad guys, it was a love story from pretty much the beginning, of course she was a love interest, just like he was.
And it was sympathetic about how the memory loss affected her, look at the the video logs scene, for me it's the most painful one to watch. Her other relationships were explored in very few episodes, there was no time to address those losses in one hour episode, but those of us who loved the character felt that pain too
I agree. I enjoyed the buildup of Chuck and Sarah's relationship and all of their shared experiences. I think that the ending is ambiguous, but one possibility is the fact that she will never remember anything about her time with Chuck.
I haven't seen HIMYM, but I've heard that the mother died young. is that accurate? If so, that is quite depressing.
She seemed to remember enough. And obviously she knew there were feelings there when she asked him to kiss her and that's what we ended on. So I would say the odds of her not remembering anything about her time with Chuck are remote at best.
HIMYM's biggest problem is they spent 9 years building up this character (Tracey, the mother) and tore it all away in the final ten minutes of the series, sending Ted back to Robin again. They could have had that ending had they let us see some of the relationship Ted had with Tracey but they basically spat in our faces with what they did.
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I wouldn't say that it's one of the best tv show finale ever, But I think it was pretty darn good. What I love about it is that you can choose whatever you prefer, because there are two possibilities : -She regains her memory, they both kinda quit and marry or something, living happily ever after or -She does not remember, and they both keep on doing the spy thing together, until she falls back in love with him, they both kinda quit and marry or something, living happily ever after So you see, if you want to imagine them kicking some more arses before retiering, you can, and if you want them to settle down, you can two! In the end, the ending is the same, because those two are ment to be together!
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My gripe with that is that no single government agency would let Sarah anywhere near them after having lost her memory, there is absolutely no way that Sarah is getting back in to the CIA.
So where does that leave Sarah? Probably threatened to be thrown in a bunker or a secure facility where the government can limit the potential damage that she can cause actually.
And in that case, where does that leave Chuck? Probably on his own again in Burbank for 3-6-9-12 months however long it takes to restore Sarah back to the state that she was in prior to having a large portion of her memory wiped.
And with all of that distance comes detachment and separation, so in my view, the future doesn't spell good for Chuck and Sarah, and that is why the writers are absolute douchebags, as everybody in the finale were moving on with their lives, while the two single most important characters in the show suffered yet another set back, and Sarah once more turned in to a prize to be won yet again...
The fitting ending and only ending in my view for Sarah and Chuck would have been; Still have the faulty intersect damaging Sarah, right up to the Bullet Train and then Quinn being took down on the train once and for all, and while on the train Sarah falls pregnant and they find out in their apartment in Burbank together while everybody else is moving on with their lives, the end.
That's the only ending fitting for Charah in my view, and I mean half of that could well be true. It's hypothetically possible that throughout the final episode and a half, Sarah could well have been pregnant, who knows..
So where does that leave Sarah? Probably threatened to be thrown in a bunker or a secure facility where the government can limit the potential damage that she can cause actually.
And in that case, where does that leave Chuck? Probably on his own again in Burbank for 3-6-9-12 months however long it takes to restore Sarah back to the state that she was in prior to having a large portion of her memory wiped.
They let Chuck leave the CIA with the Intersect in his head, didn't they? And they let Morgan walk with one in his as well.
Granted, it probably should have ended in a final battle with Shaw, but I think this was another case of retconning a character just because they could get a famous actor into the show. They discovered they could get Angus MacFayden for a recurring role, so they jumped at it. They did it with Carrie-Anne Moss, Timothy Dalton's return, and even Brandon Routh to a degree.
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Well, Sarah was starting to remember things during those last 2 episodes so logically one would have to say she'd remember everything in time. I doubt Sarah would ask Chuck to kiss her if she wasn't wanting to feel that emotion with him again, especially after she watched herself say in her video that she fell for him. Look at it this way..The finale isn't that bad compared to other shows like Dexter. Dexter's finale went completely out of character for Dexter and acted like none of it mattered in the end, though I guess it's ironic when you think about Chuck almost losing Sarah while Yvonne is also in Chuck where Hannah lost Dexter. It's kind of like vice versa
Anyways, I read somewhere that they'd bring Chuck back if they could find good stories for him so who knows..Maybe they'll give fans the closure they want eventually. It's not the first time a show's come back from the dead