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Why did Walt like Jesse THAT much


I always thought towards the end of 6th season they would show a flashback of their early days and explain why Walt loved Jesse so much; but it never happened.

Of course Jesse wasn't a bad kid so that they would have some kind of affection or attachment is normal, but in really tensed and dangerous situations Walt took big risks and made sacrifices to help or save him as if he was his own son.

Was it because Walt felt so grateful being thanks to him that he had the chance to do what he did becoming a local drug kingpin giving him back his self-esteem, pride and feeling of self-worth?? Self-esteem which he had lost after leaving the start up which turned out a huge success and having his wife and son not admiring him (compared for example to his brother in law the cool tough and confident DEA agent).

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I think Walt would have done the same for a faithful long-serving dog.

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No, he had Gale (actually symbolized as a "problem dog" in the show) shot as a power move.

This cause Walt could've chosen to pull the plug on the entire thing and hide with the DEA. Just like Jesse said. But no, there's no way Walt was gonna give up his everything with Jesse just to be safe.

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Jesse was the son he never had. Sure, he had Walt, Jr., but he was handicapped. Walt wishes he could've run his empire with Junior.

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What is your indication that Walt "loved" Jesse?

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He died for him.
And in the classic "There's nothing Jesse could ever do to stop Walt from loving him"-type way too. GORGEOUS.

Geez, Walt specifically shielded Jesse from the bullets and debris in the room. And afterwards, while slowly dying, he throws Jesse the gun so that Jesse can choose what he needs to move on. Cause Jesse is just that important.
Walt never loved anyone else this much ever.

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But If Felina is "just one episode"...in the entire series:

- Nearly every iconic move Walt did in the series was Jesse-fueled. From "This is not meth" to "RUN" to "Kill Jane so that you won't lose Jesse" to "Kill Gus and his men so you won't lose Jesse" to "The 2 greatest meth cooks in America" to "Deal with nazi's, so you protect Jesse" and giving Jesse his 5 million

- Walt cares more about Jesse than his own g-dam pride. He ends that little fight with Mike over the money....basically "weakens himself".....because Jesse was willing to take on the entire hazard pay and that CAN'T HAPPEN.

- Jesse can crush a beaker in Walt's class (212), choke Walt but decide "give him mercy" (204), kick the crap out of Walt (409), point a gun at Walts head (412).......but he never has to actually "pay retribution" for all these crimes against the great Heisenberg's ego. On the contrary, Walt freakin cries. FREAKIN CRIES cause he hurt Jesse (410). Whereas if Mike so much as really insults Heisenberg, he freakin dead.

- Always when Jesse needs it, Walt is just the sweetest pandabear he can actually be: "This is the first day, of the rest of your life" (107), "You didn't kill anybody" (213), "Let me stop you right there. You are not responsible for any of that (airplane crash). Not in any shape, way or form." (301), "I don't want a monkey, I want you."/"Your meth is good, Jesse. As good as mine." (308), "You did the only thing you could, I hope you know that." (401), Hug in a handshake (413), "Everything that had happened, happened for the best. I wouldn't have it any other way." (502), "We run this business our way, And make sure that this never happens again" 506, The intertia scene in 508....

All Saul gets is "Grow a pair" and "We're done when I say we're done" and "Why don't you take a walk Saul?". Mike gets shot. Skyler gets the entire bedroom fight ("Your little pool stunt", lol she nearly died) in 504 and that watch shoved in her face at the end.

Walt beyond loves Jesse

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I can't really disagree with your general gist, but I think you lovey-dovey it up too much. Over time Jesse became human to Walt, like his family, and he could not bear the hell that he was responsible for getting Jesse in any more than if it had been Skylar or Jr.. The gun was his way of apologizing, and Jesse's not shooting him was his way of forgiving Walt.

It's funny there are comments about how they were going to write Jesse out of the show at first, but like you said, Jesse is one of the pivots of the show from the very beginning, so I think that claim is BS. Who would go into a multi-million dollar business venture not knowing every part of the story, at least enough to ensure there would be no crash and burn, and of most of the series out there BB was really tight in its storytelling. That's one of the reasons people like it despite other factors that might push them away.

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I am lovey-dovey it up too much.

BUT AM I THOUGH? Walt responded to Skylar's cheating with abject mockery. She threw away the only connection between them (love-making) and Walt just laughs it out of the room "Screw the butcher, screw the mailman". And he simply signs the divorce papers, gets a new house pronto. But with Jesse??? Walt killed Jane, he killed Gus, he killed Mike.....

And when Skylar nearly drowned in the pool, Walt.....Heisenberg called it "her little pool stunt". She was about to die and Walt is just annoyed. If that was Jesse, Walt would not stop holding him like in 213, 502 and 511.

As for Flynn, he always chose Hank over Walt. Rebelled against Walt in season 1. Which led to Walt alcohol poisoning Flynn.....AND SMILING ABOUT IT. Like Walt can hear his 15-yeard old being hurt right beside him, and is like "....ha". Whereas Walt barely touches Jesse, unless Jesse touches him......then it's on. And yet afterward Walt weeps so sincerely about it (409) or he just straight up wants Jesse to finish him (204). Yet Walt was just "kinda embarassed" with Flynn after the tequila thing. They actually never wrote a scene to make the tequila thing right again.

So it's really really hard for me to view Skyler and Flynn being anywhere near the same to Walt as Jesse was. Walt just isn't telling that story with them in my eyes.

I don't think Vince Gilligan meant it took the entirety of season 1 for the writers to decide to keep him, I think it was almost immediately after watching Aaron in the pilot. But I do think that Vince immediately making a throwaway character SO important since episode 4 is kind of remarkable. Like, dam, Aaron was THAT good huh? He is....but still.

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Jesse was the son he couldn't have with Walt Jr.

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