The sniper scene


Is it me or do American directors love to kill off British personnel when it comes to movies that involve war. I really wouldn't be complaining if there wasn't so many things wrong with this scene.

Lets start of when Ralph feinnes gives away his position whilst firing the sniper rifle and gets killed by the enemy in the small brick hut. One shot and he misses and gets himself killed right.

Now an American steps up who hasn't shown he can use a sniper rifle. He is basically part of a bomb squad, and through out most of the movie we see him with an assault rifle in his hands. No one can just step up to a sniper rifle of that caliber, or any for that matter and just no how to use it and use it well. Maybe he does no how to handle a sniper rifle, but we are just not told about it. Which is just bad directing. It's like an assault trooper on the ground stepping into a helicopter and flying it just like that.

Ok so now Sanborn pulls himself upto the exact same position Feinnes was in when he got killed. Problem number one. If you're going to take up the exact position in where someone has just been shot and killed by a "SNIPER" then you've probably been smoking something. How in gods name is the enemy marksman not going to see someone else crawl up to a mounted sniper rifle when he would still have his sights on the same position after killing someone seconds before.

Problem number 2. When Sanborn fires the sniper rifle at the enemy and misses, he is literally doing the exact same thing feinnes did to get himself shot. Give away his position with a cloud of gun smoke without hitting his target. Now obviously Sanborn is in the same position when firing the weapon so the enemy marksman will no exactly where he is. But somehow the enemy sniper doesn't back an eye lid and gives them atleast 2 minutes to fetch another clip, whilst first class william james screams out at the top of his lungs "ELDRIDGE WE NEED MORE AMMO." That's basically like telling the other sniper "HEY I'M OVER HERE!!! THATS RIGHT IN THE SAME POSITION YOU SHOT THE LAST GUY WITH A CLOUD OF GUNSMOKE AND MY LOUD VOICE POINTING OUT THE OBVIOUS!!" But still the enemy marksman doesn't back an eye lid.

Problem number 3. 3-4 minutes after Eldridge hands them another clip (Whilst still maintaining the same position as a dead man.) Sanborn fires at the enemy on the roof of the hut killing both of them. The marksman inside the hut almost has around 6 odd minutes to kill Sanborn, but still doesn't fire a single shot. I mean seriously, is he playing with himself in there?

This whole scene is just an American director bastardizing a british force to make the American soldiers seem like heroes. It's an absolute load of bolox. And a situation which is pathetic. You don't crawl up to a dead mans position seconds after being killed from a sniper. And the enemy marksman doesn't just sit there for 10 minutes whilst they casually get some ammo and shout out each others names. Giving away there position more than three times.

The rest of the movie i like. And don't get me wrong I'm not calling out a debate on what force is better and what isn't. But god this just would never happen. I mean if the enemy marksman started firing back and missing Sanborn then you'd think it would be at least a little reasonable. But no, he doesn't fire a single shot. And when he does finally go to fire he gets killed straight away.

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Man oh man... just try to focus on the positive and stop wearing your indignation on your sleeve. This was well-executed and suspenseful. As a war scene, it was pretty darn good.

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This whole scene was perfect, what do you expect would happen, they would pick a best spot, and tell each other not to look or shoot b4 they take the spots, and then start shooting IN TURNS? Are you *beep* retarded? The only thing that caught my eye was, Feinnes saw the muzzle flash but didn't even budge, at that range, theres about good 1 second of time to react, it only takes like 50ms to see the shot and react, he couldve ducked behind the rubble.

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If by "perfect" you mean "perfect comedy," perhaps you're on to something. Very subtle, Ms. Bigelow, to sneak in that bit of comic relief disguised as a "taut" and "gripping" scene of a sniper duel. I must admit, you had me going! I thought you were playing it straight, and just had no *beep* clue what you were talking about! Silly me...

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Yeah me too, had a problem with Sanborn not relocating, and the fact that the other sniper disappeared for god knows how long. so unrealistic. I think i heard James say the distance was 850 metres. The most unrealistic thing was Sanborns shot on the Haji that was running. An inexperienced soldier on a 50. cal sniper rifle, making that kind of shot on a moving target at 850 metres. Jesus, i was like 'What?!'. Thing is with Ralph Fiennes shot Josh, it was a very long distance, 850 metres is a hard shot. And you have to take the wind in to account too. So i guess he took his shot to see where the bullet lands, and then re-adjust to make his kill shot.

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It's Memorial Day weekend and I'm at work watching this part of the movie on TV and the entire scene is eye rolling. I would blame the military technical advisor for gross inaccuracy, but the reality of Hollywood is advisors should be seen and not heard. Open your mouth and they will easily find some other retired guy who knows how to hangout on set, keep his mouth shut, and collect an easy paycheck. Hollywood does not want accurate as much as they want exciting.

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