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Don't Any Of You Find It Odd...


That throughout forty years, that not one of the Federal Government's branches of intelligence or law enforcement has been involved in the procurement of these ojbects? At least not in the miniseries and it seems as if Joe is the first police offician to have been involved.

I ask because 40 years is a long time for folks to remain hush-hush about this sort of thing and we know that Uncle Sam would send out agents to procure these items as any cost as they are 'too dangerous in the hands of common people'.

Thoughts?

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Let's see - we could borrow explanations from a number of other SF shows...

1) The Buffy explanation - basically, the people around the happenings surrounding the Objects have a sort of selective amnesia about them.

2) The Dollhouse explanation - Ballard was obsessed with the Dollhouse, and pretty much got booted from the FBI as a result. None of his bosses took him seriously.

3) The Warehouse 13 explanation - the Secret Service IS collecting the Objects and storing them in a secret warehouse in South Dakota. It's just that there are only 100 Objects, and there are many thousands of Artifacts, so with only two agents to collect everything, of course they haven't gotten them all.

I'm sure I could come up with more, but that's a good start.

Yes, there are flaws, but it's still one of the more original SF ideas I've seen in awhile. I just wish they would have played it out all the way - I would have loved to see the final resolution, and found out what actually happened in that room.

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This show could actually go well with Warehouse 13. They do, afterall, deal with procuring strange objects with mysterious properties.

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A few points.

First, as we saw the objects have a corrupting effect. As soon as the cops became involved one of the cops turned on the others trying to kill them or frame them for murder in order to keep the objects secret. I wouldn't be surprised if this had happened in the past with other law enforcement officers. Why would the federal government be immune to this?

Second the cabals would likely kill anyone in the federal government who wanted to start taking the objects. We've seen their willing to murder any number of people in order to collect the objects and keep them secret. They also didn't seem to care that Joe was a cop and were ready to murder him for the key.

Third lets suppose someone did try to report it to the FBI. "I saw a guy walk into a bathroom door and there was a bright light and some hotel room that he disappeared into" or "I saw a guy hard boil an egg with a watch" or "I saw a guy tapping a pencil and thousands of pennies were popping out". What do you think their reaction would be? They would either laugh you out of the office or have you committed.

Fourth and finally we've seen objects drive people insane. What would stop the cabal members from simply driving any federal officer who found out about the objects insane?

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Let's take it as a given that they are aware of the concepts of the various cabals and the objects in general.
Plenty of people believe there was a flying saucer crash at Roswell. No one seriously investigates that though.
Plenty of people believe that there was a conspiracy to kill JFK - whether Oswald was the or a shooter or not. The authorities haven't advanced the murder investigation much further there.

Organized crime is an actual conspiracy involving high ranking politicians. There aren't a lot of high profile prosecutions of these people even though we know it exists.
There have been collusion between business and politicians to profiteer from wars. Haliburton comes to mind.
So even if it wasn't a secret, there would be plenty of politically connected people, (and who's to say the various organizations aren't? they looked like they had a lot of money in the show) using their influence with government agencies to get their hands on the objects.

And then it so happens that the objects themselves are ridiculous, as mentioned, so a secret war involving fanatic collectors and cabals fighting over wristwatches that can boil eggs is not something anyone is going to go public with.

That is actually the beauty of how the series is written. The objects, if not by virtue of themselves and their corrupting effects, then by the weirdness of the whole thing, create an immunity to public scrutiny.

And therein lay the drama. Most people want the objects for themselves so they keep it quiet. Then there are people who become fanatic or power hungry and they join the Order who, no doubt use their power and influence to keep it quiet.
When you do get people who want to fight for "good" they join the legion, because there is no one who is going to believe them. Even if they get the key, they're going to be pursued by powerful, wealthy, influential people who have objects themselves.

So when, finally you get a situation where someone completely selfless gets the key (Joe), you get drama. Because he's fighting for something outside of the lines. He just wants his daughter back. And there's no better proof of how insidious the world of objects is than the fact that he almost instantly gets cut off from society as soon as he gets one of them.
He himself said, he could have shown the authorities the key, but they would have taken it from him and he would never have gotten his daughter back.

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Find it sad to see what the director gave us from the technical and logical point of view, was dissapointing to see smashing the bulletproof glass with the hammer was possible when it is well known you need to use all the available energy in one point. Obviously the curvy hammer isn't the right thing to do the job. However, at the begining of the hammering somebody said it couldn't be done by firing on it, lol.
When I saw this, my feeling bout the show went down, a lot. I find this humiliating.

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