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The one part I didn't really get (i.e. small plot hole)


So in the explanation MMM gives GGG saying he's a 9, aka a God-like figure/being but not exactly God. If we're thinking about this in religious/Christian terms, that would mean he's some sort of archangel I'm assuming.

But, at the end of the film, when he talks about killing billions of humans with a thought, she says to him "usually its carried out in your name". This to me implies that he IS actually God as opposed to just an angel or higher being.

Unless I'm mistaking this and he's just a God-like figure to the world he's created, as opposed to the actual world where "God rules all".

I'd like to think that the second half is my take on it as opposed to a plot hole/mistake by the writer's. Thoughts?

That aside, I watched this film just now on Netflix not really knowing what to expect and loved it. One of the things I really liked is that unlike most of these "deep"/"thought provoking" films that exist, it had enough wit and comedy it in as well to keep things interesting. Definitely not an average movie of this type.

I like Ryan Reynolds as a comedic actor but of course I also think he's taken a lot of crap roles. Great to see him branching out.

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To me it seemed that the whole thing was an allegory for some guy that was way to into his 'Sims' game.

-"This isn't a murder; it's an intervention. You're a crackhead and this world is your drug of choice" meaning exactly what was said, only from his friends in the real world, playing as their 'Sims' avatars in his 'game world'.

-"Am I God?"
-"Technically, no. If God is a 10, theoretically ultimate, then you're a 9." Again, explaining that he created this place, but is not god, just a gamer. This is because it's all a game.

I think the final G character being a game designer speaks volumes to this theory, but that's just what I came away from it with.

There's also continued use of the term 'higher power(s)' in reference to what is more commonly referred to as 'higher ups'. This seems to put G2's god complex into perspective as just that - a complex, and one the 'primordial G' (the one we don't see, who is designing these realities within the 'Sims' game confines) is using this 'Sims' game to flex. This realization of his god complex forces him to realize that he is, in fact, NOT god but merely a gamer. Think eXistenZ. Sort of. Not really. See what I'm gettin at, though?

I am the One, True Brian. All other Brians are false. Kneel before Brian.

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This was exactly my point of view aswell!!
I really don't think the religious way is the right way to look at it.
These Sims symbols were the biggest hint they could have given us about it.

For me it seems like, Gabriel (by the end of part III) had found/reached the so called "God mod" and as a result of that was able to create "the perfect world" for Melissa's role. Looking at it from the point of a rpg player helped me a lot understanding the hole context of it.

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I have a question: so if at the end Gabriel decides to take off the wristband, removing himself from that plane of existence and that universe he created, where does he go from there? Because he didn't "die," but more or less moved on. Where do you think he moved on to?

"All men dream, but not equally."
- T.E. Lawrence, Seven Pillars of Wisdom

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He went back home. Our plane was never his home it was just a thing he made and lived in for awhile. His real home was with the other nines.

"Rhianon rings like a bell through the night and wouldn't you love to love her?"

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"usually its carried out in your name"

That was such a stupid line in the first place, like something your typical YouTube 12-year old atheist who never had a thought in his live would say. Even during the height of the Crusades (which only came about because of the prior Muslim Crusades), not more than 100,000 people were killed, and this happened when the Holy See had been taking over by atheists in the form of Crusader-Kings and antipopes. Atheists have committed more atrocities during the past hundred years than all the religions of the world combined for the past 2,000. Mao killed 70 million; Lenin, Stalin and Khrushchev killed 66.7 million; Brezhnev 900,000; Mussolini 300,000; Pol Pot 1,700,000 ... for starters.

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That tells me, in Christian terms, he's Jesus.

Perhaps the Second Coming... "like a thief in the night?"

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