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Burn Notice is Charlie.


Was wondering if they'd end it with the viewers finding out who Michael Westen is talking to with his voiceovers in every episode. Really liked how they ended it with Charlie basically being the show. We've listened to Michael tell the show through Charlie's ears essentially. Thought that was cool even if it was a little cheesy. But that's kinda how the show was.... cool with a little bit of cheese lol.

Makes me smile thinking about an old Michael Westen telling Charlie about his grandma and father.

Great finale to a great series.

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I guess I'm just a simpleton (what an embarrassing realization). I always thought the narrator was talking to us, the viewers.

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Don't feel bad Dira...you're not alone. That one went completely over my head. To my defense I watched it kind of sleepy, but honestly don't think I would have gotten it then either. Always thought he was talking to the viewer.

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I thought it was cool. It was like the final episode was also the first one. It's what started the story. That's why all their intro lines were thrown around.

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WOW. Cool observation!

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There was one major flaw in the last episode: It was the last episode! As far as I was concerned, this show could have continued another 5 years easy, and I wouldn't have missed a moment of it.
The concept that Michael was talking to Charlie the whole time is very clever, but I don't agree with it. If you'll recall, there is one episode that begins with him looking straight into the camera and telling the beginning of his story. It turns out that he is talking to Carla. So telling Charlie a story in which he (Michael)talks directly to Carla doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Besides, there are two many aspects of the show that most people would not relate to their nephews such as when Michael was poised to kill that sleeping child if Burke ordered him to, when he was a drunk in the Dominican, when he slept with Sonia, etc., etc.
Plus there were also many scenes in which Michael wasn't even there such as when Fiona was in jail.
Bottom line: as astute as the Charlie suggestion may have been, I think sometimes we can be overly analytical.

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I think the suggestion is that the voice overs were the stories for Charlie, not necessarily the details behind them.

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The VO with Carla wasn't the same kind of VO as the others. For one thing, you see Michael actually talking, so it doesn't really even qualify as a VO. You just get fooled into thinking he's doing a VO because of the tone...we think we're finally seeing one. We're wrong.

I think the Voice Overs turning out to be bits of narration in the stories he's telling Charlie was a brilliant way to wrap the whole thing up, especially if you recall the Burt Reynolds' episode (Past & Future Tense) in which he says, "In the end, all you really have are your stories". Michael has a lot of stories, and if I were growing up with him, I'd want to hear them all. Not to mention, I'm guessing with a father figure like Michael, Charlie Westen is going to grow up to be a pretty capable person and would appreciate hearing them.

Besides nobody's saying he's telling a little kid these stories. He asks Fi what he should tell Charlie, "when he's older". With that many stories, it could take years to get through them all.

By the time these VOs are taking place, the Westens are living new lives with new identities. It would make sense that Charlie would eventually want to know where he came from. It would also explain why Michael would need to recount the experiences that got them there in a realistic enough way that Charlie would understood why the truth could never get out. I also like another thing the narration accomplishes; that he really was able to get out of the spy game for good. That's also implied at the end when he's explaining how a spy's fate is that you're a spy until you're dead, and then continues to say, but one thing spies aren't good at, is accepting fate. So in the end, not only is he not dead, but he's able to leave the spy game anyway.

I don't know if talking to Charlie was the plan from the beginning, but if it wasn't, the writers sure were good at tying it all up in a nice bow. On the other hand, if you believe Jeffrey Donovan, who once said that Matt Nix always knew how the show would end, he just didn't know how they'd get there, then he may very well have known all along that Michael was talking to a loved one, --not some classroom in the CIA or some imaginary audience in his head. I'm guessing the latter is true, because I know writers in general find voice over narration to be a lazy way to tell a story. But that's not the case in Burn Notice. The show would have been okay without narration. The VOs weren't there as a cheat factor, they were an actual character in the show. Michael's future self reflecting on his past.

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Burn Notice is Michael telling his life story/family history to Charlie, IMO. I don't think Charlie is Burn Notice.

Re Jesse, his "That's how we do it, people" was said in one of his first episodes, and that was included in the finale too.

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It wraps up by Mike is telling Charlie Mike's story. This is the only way he knows how to explain what happened to his parents, grandmother, why Mike and Fi are hiding with him etc. Turns out the show was Mike telling the story to Charlie.

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I don't know if talking to Charlie was the plan from the beginning, but if it wasn't, the writers sure were good at tying it all up in a nice bow. On the other hand, if you believe Jeffrey Donovan, who once said that Matt Nix always knew how the show would end, he just didn't know how they'd get there, then he may very well have known all along that Michael was talking to a loved one, --not some classroom in the CIA or some imaginary audience in his head. I'm guessing the latter is true, because I know writers in general find voice over narration to be a lazy way to tell a story. But that's not the case in Burn Notice. The show would have been okay without narration. The VOs weren't there as a cheat factor, they were an actual character in the show. Michael's future self reflecting on his past.

rewatching the pilot, I think it was the plan all along, here's why...
recall the 'client' in the pilot? Javier, the mansion caretaker falsely accused of stealing from his boss...and near the end, in an act of desperation, the boss plots to kidnap Javier's kid, and Michael rescues him and keeps him at the loft till his dad can come get him? during that time, the kid, David, tells Michael that he's being beaten up by other boys, what does Michael do? he sympathizes (I could swear I also saw a little tear in his eye, but my TV is small, and I wasn't very close to it), he imparts some life-experience wisdom on him about getting beaten up himself, and then he proceeds to show David how to fight, which is pretty much what he's doing in the voice-overs for Charlie, commenting on the situation, and the best way to resolve it

and then the heartwarming part at the end, when he proudly watches as David beats the crap out of the bullies who'd been hurting him

I think this was a very well-written series, full of foreshadowing, which you don't pick up on till you've seen it through, then start over again, and I think this was mostly due to its creator, Matt Nix STICKING WITH THE SERIES ALL THE WAY THROUGH!!! looking at you, J.J. Abrams!

thank you, Mr. Nix :) I really love this show, and I can talk/write about it all day long....

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Agreed. Matt Nix was masterful with this show. I don't think it gets the credit it deserves, but whatever, it was successful and he is in demand as a writer/creator.

I've been watching his new show "Complications". So far, it's been pretty intense, with none of the comic relief, and I haven't gotten sucked into caring about the main character all that much. It's funny, I was just watching yesterday and was thinking to myself, wow, it's an interesting premise but I may have to let this one go, and then the lead went and caused some pretty significant and surprising mayhem and it definitely sparked my interest again. Plus, I love seeing "Agent Pearce" back on my screen, playing basically the same role she did in Burn Notice, except this time she's a supervising physician. So I'll stick with it a little longer because I'm a huge Matt Nix fan.

I remember when I first started watching Burn Notice. It was one of those unusual rainy days here in SoCal, and there was a marathon on. I started watching it sort of in that ironic way, like this looks like it might be so bad it's good, and before I knew it I was 100% hooked and realized it was actually really, REALLY good. I don't think I've ever been as taken with any show, which is strange, but it just shows how good Nix is at what he does.

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and he is in demand as a writer/creator.

I'm just glad he wasn't so in demand that he wasn't able to stick with BN to the end

I saw where Pearce was in Complications, when it was on after a BN on USA a couple of weeks ago, I was glad he hired her for another show

I know I must've seen the commercials for BN during other shows I was watching at the time, like In Plain Site, and I specifically remember the shot of him moving behind that wall (from the pilot), but, for whatever reason, it just never grabbed me, I guess...sure glad it's still on tv, and I was able to watch it through, it's now one of my favorite series ever :)

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I'm glad too. That's exactly what happened to me. I think I saw part of a marathon after an episode of Suits or something because I wasn't all that aware of USA prior to BN. I was not expecting to get hooked. Wow was I wrong and it's one of my all time favorite shows now, too. There's just so much more to it than what's on the surface. The show is so unique the way they combined the tongue in cheek with the serious. The stuff for men and women. Really pretty genius all around. It's nice that cable tends to stick with good ideas and talent a little longer, give them a little more leeway. I wish they'd done that with Touching Evil, the other Jeffrey Donovan show, which I think could have found a real following. Loved JD's character in that show.

Anyway, I'll be following Matt Nix wherever he goes for quite a while. I definitely like the way his mind works. :)

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Not been able to get into Nix's new show. I think the tid bits of comedy not in the midst kind of has made i harder for me to get into.

I actually got into BN completely by accident. I was playing games after work one morning and flipped the game off (the TV was on USA from my wife the previous night) and I noticed Bruce. So I kinda watched for a few minutes. (It was the marathon before the season 1 finale.) and ended up watching 2 episodes and was hooked.

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Yeah, I mentioned the same thing somewhere else about Complications. There's no relief from the stress level on that show. No light spots, unlike BN, that could always manage to make you smile in the middle of the insanity. I also said that I was about to give up on Complications until the last episode, where the Doctor does something very unexpected, sort of freaks out and causes some major mayhem, and that piqued my interest a bit, so I'll stick with it a little longer. I hope it finds its footing. I really do want to see more BN type material from Nix. But sometimes I think that BN was so unique that it would be hard to find another vehicle to do the same sort of thing. Another writer who CAN do drama with a touch of humor is Joss Whedon (Buffy, Firefly, Avengers). But his subject matter is almost always outside the norm, something supernatural or sci-fi. Matt hit on this spy thing and got the perfect balance. I'm not sure what other kind of story could be done in quite the same way. Justified is almost there, but it's darker overall. The writers on that show are killer, though. So good company all around.

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