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Shame on San Francisco


Really you guys - put up a barrier.

What shocked me the most when I was watching this film was how quickly people jump how easy the option is, just up, over, gone. You would think they would put a barrier up like they have @ the Empire State Building. I remember reading the article that inspired the film when some people tried to take up the cause the city freaked out and did not want it. Its just sad. I understand that if someone has made there mind up to end it all it's most likely going to happen but no reason to make it easy. Dr.Kevorkian tried and got jail time for it. Come of Frisco protect the people.

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I just posted an interview with Kevin Hines, the young man who survived the jump. Now he is a public speaker promoting mental health awareness. The inteview is very moving and inspirational. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La4IxHzS22Y

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idk about u guys but i would prefer at least 1 saved life over a "ruined" monument.

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Thanks for that :)

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Its sad but if they put up barrier, they will just find another way to kill themselves, so there is no point and it ruins view of Bridge.


"Nobody is free, even the birds are chained to the sky" - Bob Dylan

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Its sad but if they put up barrier, they will just find another way to kill themselves,


That is repeated over and over in this thread and it is completely untrue.

j_richardson86 made the best post in this thread and he nailed it.


"A familiar argument against a barrier is that thwarted jumpers will simply go elsewhere. In 1953, a bridge supervisor named Mervin Lewis rejected an early proposal for a barrier by saying it was preferable that suicides jump into the Bay than dive off a building “and maybe kill somebody else.” (It’s a public-safety issue.) Although this belief makes intuitive sense, it is demonstrably untrue. Dr. Seiden’s study, “Where Are They Now?,” published in 1978, followed up on five hundred and fifteen people who were prevented from attempting suicide at the bridge between 1937 and 1971. After, on average, more than twenty-six years, ninety-four per cent of the would-be suicides were either still alive or had died of natural causes. “The findings confirm previous observations that suicidal behavior is crisis-oriented and acute in nature,” Seiden concluded; if you can get a suicidal person through his crisis—Seiden put the high-risk period at ninety days—chances are extremely good that he won’t kill himself later."


Every reputable work on suicide I've read comes to the same conclusion. In the short term and the long term barriers work.


The Survivor Funny 115:http://www.averdata.net/~locbaseb/funny/funny115.htm

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And the money argument is moot. They're spending multi-billions of dollars replacing and retrofitting the eastern span of the Bay Bridge, but they can't spend far, far less money to provide a suicide prevention barrier for the Golden Gate? Lunacy! The only real reason alone is tourist dollars and bureaucratic red tape. End of discussion.


Actually, there's a very real reason that the barrier has not gone up (and, times being what they are, likely never will): the folks who run the bridge (the Golden Gate Bridge, Highway and Transportation District) have decreed that a suicide barrier cannot be built using money from bridge tolls:


When the plan was approved, district officials stipulated that the barrier could not be built using the money collected in bridge tolls, leaving the source unclear for the $45 million needed to complete the net. “We’ve found a solution that has minimal impacts visually and aesthetically,” Ms. Currie said. “Now it’s just about getting the remaining funding to build it.”


Why the district officials made such a stipulation, I don't know, exactly (anyone?). Regardless, there is nothing to prevent the $45 million from being raised through private means. However, if I understand correctly, the majority of San Franciscans do not support a suicide barrier being erected on the bridge. Perhaps that's the reason why the bridge district won't fund the barrier with taxpayer money: the taxpayers do not support the idea.

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*beep* that. if you put a barrier up at the GG why not put one all over the caltrain tracks? we have craploads of suicides on by trains.
you can't stop someone from suicide if that's their real intention. why waste money on pointless ugly *beep*

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Remember, this is Kalifornia we are talking about. They would have to first perform a ten year study, on how these "protection" rails might affect the mating habits of Spotted-Owls and rare Condors. Then, a five year toxicology study would have to be done on any of the metals and materials used in the rails. Then, it would have to get approved by 93 layers of corrupt, Kalifornia Govt bureaucracy, which would take another fifteen years. The final study would have to ensure that the rails are not racist, and that the rails do not discriminate based on race, creed or sexual orientation.
Then of course, Kalifornia is broke and bankrupt, so there would be no money to pay for any of it. And if by some miricle the idea ever made it through this "process," numerous lawsuits would follow against the State. "Kalifornia is depriving its citizens of the right to commit suicide..."

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It's man made and already has a good dose of unsightly safety features that take away from it's beauty.

Create some more jobs, and just do it, and do it right, put up barriers that can't be jumped over, or rails that can't be climbed. Something that doesn't compromise the aesthetics too much, so the majority on both sides can be satisfied over this new idea. Something quick to get used to, and before you know it, it will be safe, and appealing to the eye again.

Why? Because...

Maybe a percentage jump from this bridge because of its publicity.

Maybe some will go somewhere else.

Maybe some won't do it at all.



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I agree. We're not suggesting a chain link fence with razor wire. They could design something that's aesthetically pleasing AND safe.

When I was in college our library was over 10 stories high and had a deck that you could walk out onto on the top floor. During finals though, the doors to the deck were locked. I wouldn't suggest that all bridges need barriers to prevent jumping, but the GGB has over 20 suicides a year, every year. Well over a thousand since it was built. How many more are going to jump to their deaths before they finally say ENOUGH!

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You think a barrier would prevent anyone from committing suicide? And do you know how much money would be wasted to construct these barriers?

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