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Howard Stern did this already.


What makes this story any better than Howard Stern's Private Parts?

Oh yeah, bigger budget.. bigger stars. Nice.

$$$$$$

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Green came along before Stern.

Green inspired Stern.

Green was the first of his kind in radio.

Green actually played a positive role for a community during one of the more turbulent political times in America.

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Forgive him, for he knows not what he says...

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Petey Greene is not a contemporary of Howard Stern. Greene was on the radio almost ffteen years before Stern made a name for himself in DC.

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I'd like to see Howard Stern try to stop a riot or console a community in their grief the way Petey Greene did.

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Actually, he did participate like Petey.

History Lesson: Howard Stern actually appeared and became an irregular guest
on "The Petey Greene Show," filmed with a live Audience
on WDCA Television channel 20 [uhf]
The sense was that Howard appearance might actually incite a greater riot or
uproar, but in fact he proved that he did and does actually relate in
an almost uncanny honest manner.
He was a hit actually walking up into the audience. They loved him!
I rememember it so well just because it was so fresh and unique.

He and Petey were quite3 like minded, and although they could disagree
completety on some things, he still made Petey laugh and think, it was clear.

Of course Petey preceded Howard. And there is no question that Mr. Greene
was the inspiration for Howard to chrysalius and bloom into the outrageous
media presence he became.
This connection was mentioned in Private Parts.
It was just some cosmic quirk that caused both of them to hit the Wash-Balto market simultaneously,
during the most third domestically tumultuous period of our nation's history
behind the American Revolution and the Civil War.

Don't forget that Stern has addressed and quelled huge crowds since
in near riot,
has stood up to the FCC when no other major Media entity would,
and did run a serious campaign for nomination for Governor of New York,
after being credited with the Election of the Governor of New Jersey.

Point is, he ain't chopped liver hun.
And He does in fact have a direct link to Petey,
making this thread more ironic.

I realize you'd have to be in your late 40's or early 50's and lived
in the area to know first hand about this Petey and Howard coonection,
and that does not reflect the likely demographic for these message boards.

But accurate or not, or whatever you're thoughts or opinions,
the intelligent interest y'all are showing in the film and the story
behind it is great!


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I'm glad you posted this.

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Right on with the right on

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And remember when Howard Stern made his debut on Petey Green's show in blackface, as a "tribute" to Greene? I wonder whether there is any video of that show still extant.

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There is. The way I found out about Petey Greene was from a documentary that aired sometime last year on my local PBS station, and they showed that particular episode. I wanted to find out more about Petey Greene, and that's how I learned about this movie - and I wondered how the HELL did this not get hyped up better three years before.

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"I'd like to see Howard Stern try to stop a riot or console a community in their grief the way Petey Greene did."

He really wouldn't have to, white people don't tend to riot.

"NILBOG is Goblin spelt backwards!"

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lol.

But can he console a community? Was it Howard's voice you wanted to hear after 9/11 if you were living in New York?

did you seat back and go "if only I hear Howard's voice, He would know what to do"

I don't think "That's a 12 inch Kielbasa down her throat, ladies and gentleman" will help anyone while they are worried about their safety and their loved ones.

Nice try on the comeback though. I wonder what white people would riot about if they did. No one cuts my grass, or cleans my house or, watches my kids anymore.

Something along those lines? I mean they have so many problems. I have no idea how they are going to solve them. Let me think........


I'm Curious, after killing me, what is it you plan on doing next

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The other post that I replied to made it seem as if white people never do and have no reason to riot. I simple stated that it is true. If you feel you want to set the whole country ablaze, maybe that is your problem, not a community problem.

Can you list some of these plights that you "White Dudes" have that would feed the need to "Set the whole country ablaze", as you put it?

I'm Curious, after killing me, what is it you plan on doing next

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I do live in NY,

If he was on during the morning, sorry I was busy worrying about my family that was on planes at the time. Didn’t really want to hear Howard's voice.

What I do remember is all those days K-Rock played that Staind song "Outside".

If he was on the air, I didn't hear him. Sorry to down your Idol. I hope he helped you during that distressful time.

The only things I do remember Howard doing days later were getting people all in an uproar talking about how we should bomb them to death. If that's your way of consoling the community, maybe I should move out of New York.

I'm Curious, after killing me, what is it you plan on doing next

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Actually, during 9/11 Howard did exactly that. Alot of people were listening to his show that morning. It was from Howard's show that I was informed of the attacks that took place that day.

IMHO, it was one of his more legendary shows, I can remember listening to it while watching CNN on mute so I could hear the on scene witnesses who were calling in to report.

As for Petey Greene, I see him as a legend who helped inspire Howard and helped expose him to the world, While Howard has helped keep The Great Petey Greene's legend alive for the newer generation which included myself. I was a kid in TX when Petey was alive and kicking, it was through listening to Howard that I found out about him even though he was long dead.

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HAHAHAHAH white people dont riot? wow. you INVENTED the word riot. hahaha.

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What does that mean "He really wouldn't have to, white people don't tend to riot. "

White people don't tend to riot? Is that like one of those gray area answers, you're not exactly saying they don't riot, just they don't tend to riot, so are you saying they do riot. Perhaps your saying that they don't riot as much as black people?

Let's see if we can shed some light on white people on tending not to riot.

The Bristol Bridge Riot of 1793 was one of the most serious riots, in
terms of killed and injured, to occur in Britain during the last half of the
eighteenth century.

From the evening of May 31st, to the afternoon of June 1, 1921, more Americans killed fellow Americans in the Tulsa riot than probably anytime since the Civil War.Those events left a total of 301 dead. Two days of violence and arson directed by whites against African American neighborhoods left hundreds dead, hundreds injured, and more than 1500 African American owned homes and 600 businesses destroyed.

Religious Riots Hit Belfast
Catholic and Protestant rioters bombarded police with rocks, bricks and gasoline bombs Thursday in street warfare that mirrored worsening prospects for Northern Ireland's 1998 peace accord.

The riots in Rostock, Germany began around 3 pm last Saturday. In European riots outside of G8 meetings and such, generally all sides refrain from using lethal weapons. (If anybody breaks with this tradition - such as Genoa in 2000 or Gothenberg in 2001 - it is always the police.) The riots on Saturday were part of a long series of such confrontations around Germany, around Europe, around the world.

I can go on and on about how whites don't tend to riot....puleeze!

And the only your little mind things this way isn't entirely your fault you see the media when reporting on whites rioting they don't use the word 'riot' they use words like disturbance, melee, revelers, etc.

For some reason, whenever black folks turn rowdy, it's a riot. When white folks do the exact same thing, well . . . it's something else.

Madison - The city's annual Halloween celebration turned violent early Sunday as drunken costumed revelers threw bottles, overturned bicycle racks and vandalized stores on State St.

Notice, if you will, the absence of the "r-word" in that first paragraph. And it seems almost mandatory in this case, given that the crowd was estimated at 65,000 and police had to use tear gas to quell the rioters.

Er, I mean revelers.

Lower in the story, police are quoted as calling it a riot, but you won't find it in the first paragraph or the headline.

This is not just in cases where a bunch of drunken white kids trash their town. Even in our nation's capital, this quirky habit continues.

As in this story about protesters in a violent clash with police two months ago:

A massive local and federal police force outnumbered and overwhelmed anti-globalization protesters Friday in downtown Washington and quickly stamped out sporadic acts of vandalism in a morning of demonstrations that ended with hundreds of arrests.

Again, no riot.

But, when it's a group of rowdy black kids at Shermanfest a few years ago, the descriptions differ. As in this Associated Press story:

An outdoor jazz festival resumed peacefully after hundreds of people rioted in the streets Saturday night. . . .

And let's not forget this nugget from our hometown newspaper: At least six people were arrested late Saturday when hundreds of people leaving Shermanfest rioted in neighborhood streets, vandalizing homes and businesses, police said.

Notice a pattern?

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Wow...Great Post oRaidRo!! One of the most informative and accuate responses to an ignorant comment that I have ever read on IMDB. I wish I had written it myself!! Much Props man

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Point well taken.

I'm from Michigan were rioting, er, reveling has been the fabric our infamous state college football games and other sports events (MSU 1998, Ohio State vs. Michigan 2002, Tigers world series 1993, etc.) And we are not even going to discuss those European soccer match responses.

Watch that wild show Maximum Exposure late nights and you'll see everyone rioting and reveling all over the globe - equal opportunity!

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oRaidRo wrote:

What does that mean "He really wouldn't have to, white people don't tend to riot. "

White people don't tend to riot? Is that like one of those gray area answers, you're not exactly saying they don't riot, just they don't tend to riot, so are you saying they do riot. Perhaps your saying that they don't riot as much as black people?

Let's see if we can shed some light on white people on tending not to riot.

The Bristol Bridge Riot of 1793 was one of the most serious riots, in
terms of killed and injured, to occur in Britain during the last half of the
eighteenth century.

From the evening of May 31st, to the afternoon of June 1, 1921, more Americans killed fellow Americans in the Tulsa riot than probably anytime since the Civil War. Those events left a total of 301 dead. Two days of violence and arson directed by whites against African American neighborhoods left hundreds dead, hundreds injured, and more than 1500 African American owned homes and 600 businesses destroyed.

Religious Riots Hit Belfast
Catholic and Protestant rioters bombarded police with rocks, bricks and gasoline bombs Thursday in street warfare that mirrored worsening prospects for Northern Ireland's 1998 peace accord.

The riots in Rostock, Germany began around 3 pm last Saturday. In European riots outside of G8 meetings and such, generally all sides refrain from using lethal weapons. (If anybody breaks with this tradition - such as Genoa in 2000 or Gothenberg in 2001 - it is always the police.) The riots on Saturday were part of a long series of such confrontations around Germany, around Europe, around the world.

I can go on and on about how whites don't tend to riot....puleeze!

And the only your little mind things this way isn't entirely your fault you see the media when reporting on whites rioting they don't use the word 'riot' they use words like disturbance, melee, revelers, etc.

For some reason, whenever black folks turn rowdy, it's a riot. When white folks do the exact same thing, well . . . it's something else.

Madison - The city's annual Halloween celebration turned violent early Sunday as drunken costumed revelers threw bottles, overturned bicycle racks and vandalized stores on State St.

Notice, if you will, the absence of the "r-word" in that first paragraph. And it seems almost mandatory in this case, given that the crowd was estimated at 65,000 and police had to use tear gas to quell the rioters.

Er, I mean revelers.

Lower in the story, police are quoted as calling it a riot, but you won't find it in the first paragraph or the headline.

This is not just in cases where a bunch of drunken white kids trash their town. Even in our nation's capital, this quirky habit continues.

As in this story about protesters in a violent clash with police two months ago:

A massive local and federal police force outnumbered and overwhelmed anti-globalization protesters Friday in downtown Washington and quickly stamped out sporadic acts of vandalism in a morning of demonstrations that ended with hundreds of arrests.

Again, no riot.

But, when it's a group of rowdy black kids at Shermanfest a few years ago, the descriptions differ. As in this Associated Press story:

An outdoor jazz festival resumed peacefully after hundreds of people rioted in the streets Saturday night. . . .

And let's not forget this nugget from our hometown newspaper: At least six people were arrested late Saturday when hundreds of people leaving Shermanfest rioted in neighborhood streets, vandalizing homes and businesses, police said.

Notice a pattern?

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When idiotic, entitled white college punks 'celebrate' championships in Boston, your bet your a$$ the media here calls it as it is---a riot. Thank you p***y parents of the myspace generation.

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thank you, thank you, thank you!

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"I'd like to see Howard Stern try to stop a riot or console a community in their grief the way Petey Greene did."

He really wouldn't have to, white people don't tend to riot.

"NILBOG is Goblin spelt backwards!"

Now that's really dumb and a perfect way to air your two cents! I guess your geography and history is only limited to 15 min of what the gray matter you call a brain can remember or choses to...or you are just a typical NORTH AMERICAN minus CANADA kind of dude!!....Do these ring a bell, IRELAND, BRITAIN, SPAIN, HUNGARY....rioting is the only way victimized people know how to get their point of view across when those in the lap of luxury these same people have helped provide for for soooo many years sit and watch while sipping lattes and leaving one starbucks and checking into another across the street to order the same damn thing do nothing about their plight! Thinking does not cost one anything, use that proven theory / fact the next time you decide not to!!

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If you would like to have seen Howard stop a riot, you should go back and listen to the tape of the show during the day of the attack of 9/11. Howard stayed on the air talking to the people of New York well into the afternoon that day. He stayed on to help the people of New York cope with what was going on in their city. He didn't place blame on anyone. He just helped a city understand the magnitude of what was happening. If you listened to the show in the days following that event, the calls were overwhelmingly in favor of Howards views and thanked him for getting them through that rough time.

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I was actually listening to Howard Stern the morning of the 9/11 attack and Howard will admit it himself that he spent over an hour after the initial attack doing his whole antics about jokes, sex games etc.

Even after he discovered that it was a serious issue...he didn't calm anyone down. He went on a tirade about how we need to bomb all of the countries in the Middle East!!

How is that helping people? If anthing he intensified peoples anger.

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The main times that a riot is reported, it's white people participating. Especially if it involves a bunch of drunk college students celebrating their team's victory in the streets. They may be in happy spirits, but they are rioting all the same.

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Well, those who are not oppressed usually do not have much reason to riot.

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"white people don't tend to riot" - What planet are you on? I guess the French, Germans and some other Europeans are black. "TOIDI is idiot spelled (or spelt) backwards!"

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*beep* if white people don't riot. what about those white collage kids. those *beep* always riot a sporting event's. even when there team wins.

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It is really sad that you are so simple minded. Why is there always a comparison needed when a movie comes out about a person that should not be compared to anyone. Petey Green had an original spirit and presence and that is all that should matter. So I suggest you look at yourself, and discover why you have a need to compare human beings who are remarkable individuals. Every one has something to offer that is different and you should hope people don't look at you and compare you with someone else. I am sure you will come up short in comparison. Your embarrassing comment, led to that poor soul actually doing research to further legitimate your idiotic comparison.

Shame on you.

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LoL! My mom remembers this dude from when she was younger -- here in DC (They were childhood friends in old Foggy Bottom); she says he was pretty funny back then, and that he always seemed to know how to get the party of tension started, so to speak. Overall a really high-spirited, 'round the way guy in the gang before they grew up and away from each other. I have yet to see the movie, but I will sometime, as I've heard it's very good. But the one thing that tripped my mom out is that she thought it funny they didn't have someone who looked "more like" Petey, even though Don puts on a fabulous performance. I s'pose this is also cool to know -- their relationship -- because my mom is also distant cousin to Jack Johnson, first black Heavyweight champion of the world.

At any rate, last my mom saw of him, he paid a visit to the funeral of my grandfather (my mom's dad), whom I am told Petey was crazy about. Glad to hear as much.

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No annoying voice over’s and talking to the camera.

It also has a story, it a not a autobiography. "Private Parts" is like a book on tape with pictures. "And this is my dad, and this is my whore wife who will soon leave me"

If you like Stern then you will like the movie. But take someone who never listened to one of his radio shows and play that movie and it will turn them off completely. It’s a self glorification about him, told by him.

Stern's movie may have been first but this one will get way more respect; and deserves it.

Stern's message is "I can say anything I want", Greene's was "I'll say what you are afraid to say"

History will tell who got the story right.

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"History will tell who got the story right."

You might want to do some research because Green's family doesn't think this film got it right.

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Hoo Hoo Hoo, Robin my movie was a work of fiction.

This movie is not and predates Capt Skijump Nose by 15 years

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Having seen neither movie (well parts of Private Parts on TV) and being relatively familiar with Stern and Cheadle, I am completely confident that if Howard Stern is the driving force and inspiration for a movie that ends up being better than any Don Cheadle project, the Universe will inwardly collapse on itself within seven days.

For all our sakes, I pray that the OP is mistaken by even considering the possibility.....

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This was a drama. Private Parts was a comedy and not as powerful as Talk to Me.

Interesting post about the connection between Stern and Petey Green though. I didn't know that. I am a big Stern fan, and probably would have been a Petey Green fan too I imagine.

On 9/11 though, I must say that Stern helped me personally get through that day. He stayed on three hours late I think, and I stayed tuned in.

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Howard's done everything, including build a time machine to go back and get on radio before Petey Greene, he's done it all, including becoming washed-up.

HOO HOO Robin, I invented fake biopic movies.

Opie and Anthony on XM Satellite Radio
SPREAD THE VIRUS!!!!

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I wouldn't even say Howard Stern in the same sentence with Petey Greene. Greene was an icon who brought about change. Stern is a bufoon.

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howard stern is a buffoon but what has that to do with this movie? sing his praises on sterns page, comment on the movie here. great piece of film making.

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