What are the roughest areas in England?
Or in Britain?
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As a whole, probably Glasgow... highest murder rate City in Europe.
I heard someone say Cardiff and all??? Just cause they got a nifty football firm, but Cardiff shouldnt get a mention at all with places like Manchester, Liverpool, Newastle, Glasgow, London...
And it's not really the Cities itself that are rough, its borough's of them cities.
And St. Paul's in Bristol recently had a huge 200+ person riot... the paramedics came along in shed loads and then when they tried to help the hurt people the paramedics got it even worse. Dragged from the ambulances and such
Sad state of affairs to be honest.
Crouch End is the roughest place in Britain.
shareI used to always think Newcastle was rough. But having travelled the country a bit now, and after having gotten a bit wiser, I actually feel quite safe here. I don't know whether it's just the fact that I know this area a lot, or whether it genuinely isn't as rough as people make it out.
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I'm telling you for real, it's Crouch End.
sharenorthern ireland still apart of britian if you *beep* didnt no booom belfast owned it dead dead dead you experience living here all you would be saying it 20 years ago was *beep* mental but now still is pretty bad
shareSouthamptons starting to get pretty bad. Woolston: a 17 yr old got stabbed there...Townhill/Thornill areas are now run by chavs...St Marys and Shirely warren are probably the worst areas on the south coast. thankfully theres not a lot of gun crime down here, but unfortunately things seem to spread these days and its only a matter of time before so called "gangs" here get a hold of them. i wudnt walk by myself after around 11/12 at night
otherwise its a beautiful city
From the sound of it the UK sounds like the last place on earth anyone would want to visit... is it safe to assume that a good many folks in the UK would welcome death squads to go around a take out the YOB, I mean I remember when the death squads cleaned up Rio and quite frankly it was a godsend... a couple of years and you could walk outside at night without having to worry about being mugged by a kid with a knife.
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I'm Scottish born and bred but I used to live in Chelmsford for a number of years and work in London. In the early years I was there, I loved the place, it used to be a great town, safe, friendly and people got to know each other easily. It seemed that the population was in the main pretty local born and bred, (unlike Basildon) and as an incoming Jock, I was a bit of an outsider-novelty in a way. I can't remember meeting other Scots in Chelmsford at the time. That didn't bother me one bit. A great place to bring up a family.
I went abroad several years, married and returned with my wife and small family. My wife is from the Philippines, we met in Hong Kong and the kids are British cos of me. Of mixed blood, my son looks a light brown/mediterranean like my wife, while my daughter is as white as me. We bought a house in Chelmsford and the kids started school. Everyone was brilliant at the local primary. Again, our kids were the only non-local kids at school. All the kids were great and there was no bullying and they were making friends. My wife was made welcome by local folk too. I could be late home by train, walk through town and all was well. My kids even developed real Essex accents, which they still have today !
Then we went abroad again. In fact, when our kids said goodbye at school, there was much tears from them and their friends and classmates. I wondered if I had made the right choice. We kept the house and rented it out.
After that project was done over 2 years later, we came back and we were gobsmacked. The whole place had changed. There was loads of building going on, loads of new housing all over (fastest growing city in Essex). Loads of strange faces of all types, many from London and its overflowing burbs. So many new outsiders - which is okay. But it all seemed to come at a price. Unlike the early days I lieved there, this time I wouldn't dare go through the town centre at say 10pm any more. Chelmsford had become a complete chav-haven (or hell !) and with all those tacky bars newly opened pouring alcopops down teenage throats, endless fights were commonplace and drunks lay all over the place. Go through these streets in daylight and all you see is spots of blood all over the pedestrian paved areas. Gangs of chavs hang around the streets (usually around McDonalds). I found myself more aware and developing a more aggressive attitude in the street, just in case of trouble - miles from the old Chelmsford days of smiles and being at ease. I even got my photo in the Daily Mail in a story about casual dress and was criticised by Mail readers for looking like a middle-aged skinhead yob ! Priceless !
I knew it wasn't the same anymore and we stuck it out for 4 years. Meanwhile, my son was of an age to be at secondary school (the supposed best state school in town - Boswells). He got bullied and verbally abused, but I guess that happens at secondary school. The only 2 times I got picked on at school, I fought both times and was so f **** ng angry, I won both times. But my son was brought up in a peaceful background and got bullied by bigger guys at secondary school. He kept quiet about it until I wondered why he was going through so much money and seemed unhappy to go to school. I complained and was told the school maintained they had a policy of no-bullying. That was rubbish. I was so enraged, I was about to take a baseball bat to his tormentors at school, but my wife stopped me. Just as well she did. As it was, I was getting pissed off with working in London year after year and the endless travelling too, so we took an opportunity to go abroad when it arose. We sold the house and moved to the Gulf / UAE area.
So - we're abroad again and intend to stay abroad permanently. The kids are at British school here continuing with the English curriculum and they have a great time and have great mates, mainly British, but also other nationalities and races. No problems. The country we're in is Islamic and at least it doesn't tolerate the sort of *beep* we had back home. Is this what it takes ? To emigrate ?
It just goes to show what can happen to a decent town when there's a crap Labour government for too long.
My kids still love England and want to go back there someday. That's their decision and if that's waht they want, they can go when they're old enough.
Me ? I still love Scotland and the UK. I fear however I love the Scotland I knew as a boy and young man and maybe I would feel strange there now. When the time comes, I don't mind where I die, after all I'll just be a lump of dead meat. My preference would be either on the coast of Kintyre, overlooking the Atlantic, or else in the hills of Southern Sumatera, looking over the Sunda Strait.
We Are The Mods ! We Are The Mods ! We Are - We Are - We Are The Mods ! (Quadrophenia)
I grew up in Canning town/custom house,East london & it is pretty rough.
Moved out 1n 93.
Read in the paper recenly that DHL wont deliver there anymore yet they still deliver in Kabul,Iraq!!!
Nottingham can be quite rough but it depends on the people you run into.
St Annes and Meadows are probably the 2 roughest areas in Nottingham, and some times trouble can come your way dependant on skin colour. These areas are populated mainly by black and asian people and a lot of gangs can be found. I've personally seen stabbings and heard gunshots in some areas but i wouldn't class myself as being scared of these areas.
I've been to Manchester and London that have worse places. My cousin lived in Moss Side for 3 years, which is safe to say the roughest area i've ever been to.
I went to Gloucestershire in August for a doctors' reunion and the place I was at seemed very nice. From what I've heard, Scarborough is a really decent place. My family lived there in the mid-'70s.
shareThe big problem with the UK is NOT that it has more trouble/scum than other countries but more geographical. In countries like the US with their ghetto's(Compton), South Africa with their Townships(Soweto) and even in France there are areas where crime is highly concentrated.
The UK's main problem is that there are no set areas as mentioned above. Canary Wharf is a prime example, some of the highest valued land in the UK, one of the highest concentrations of workers and wealth earners.... And just one stop on the tube or a 5 minute walk in the wrong direction brings you to Canning Town, one of the dodgiest areas in London.
I live in Nottingham or shotingham as it is known. On the whole you preety much get trouble all over if you don't keep your head down. The roughist areas though are st anns and Bestwood, I wouldn't even walk through those areas in the day. I also work for the counsil and have to speak to a lot of these people and to be fair there bunch of retards. The girls all have kids at 15 and live off benifits and the lads just walk around staring at people and getting drunk in the street, an they do this till they die. Part of me thinks we should just allocate one big estate an move all the scum there, build a wall around it and leave them to it.
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Camden town is ok but try a visit to Canning town.
You will probably have to wait less than 15 minutes for a pint glass to get thrown in your face!
Great story, mine is similar - I sold what I could and moved away. I couldn't go back to live there again. I have my memories, but have been away for 8 years now. I hear stories from other people who go back from time to time, and realise that the situation just keeps getting worse, and if you're not constantly there to try to develop some kind of resistance, you could NEVER go back. now I see the uncivilised and undeveloped areas of the world. I stayed in a border town where there is no law, and people can be jumped in the street, get their drinks drugged and such like - but I felt much safer there than I ever did in England.
It's nothing new - the Quadrophenia quote is lovely, but that's nothing to what is occuring now. I had a tooth knocked out by total strangers walking out of a Chip shop when I was 13 - that's about 1977. I had crazy fights on school busses, and as you say - you get so much stress and fear that you go crazy. I was bullied a bit, but when cornered I fight like a dog, and nearly killed one boy. Again, about ten years later, someone attacked me at home, and I smashed his jaw and nose against a wall because I thought he was going to kill me.
There is no justice any more in Britain. You enjoy your dreamy memories, and stay clear.
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its to hard to say really, like take a city...il take manchester because its the nearest to me...you will have rough areas and then nice areas its the same as anywere really
providing you know how to keep out of trouble then generally you'll be fine, its common sense really when avoiding the rough areas
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I visited Los Angeles on holiday a couple of years ago with a male friend and in the three days we were in the city, we experienced no problems and saw nothing bad of any note occuring. We stayed in seedy Hollywood (a lot of homeless peoople), visited Downtown in the day, along with Venice Beach (dangerous at night) and Santa Monica - and we stopped in a cheap motel in Inglewood, which is on the edge of South Central, on our last night to be near to the airport. There was thick bulletproof glass in the motel reception area and bars on the outside windows of the house next-door, but our stay was quiet and trouble-free.
A week or so later we went into Birmingham City Centre (a few miles from where I live) on a Saturday night and as were walking along chavvy, rough Broad Street to the bus stop, an Asian lad decided he wanted to cause trouble and ended up hitting my friend in the face, causing a facial cut which needed stitches. The matter ended up in a Trial at the Magistrates' Court and my friend did get justice in the end, but I just found the timing of the whole thing rather ironic.
I work as a legal secretary in criminal defence and we get hardly any work anymore due to the Police not bothering to investigate properly, and when they do, the Crown Prosecution Service not prosecuting, so don't believe in the drop in crime figures as it's just fiddled.
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I agree wholeheartedly with your comments.
No, I'm not saying that Broad Street is worse than, say, a street in Compton, as America's gang problems in particular are different to ours and on a much larger scale (segregation being a big cause). I am sure that LA and the US as a whole is a much more dangerous place to live than here, due to the gun laws if nothing else (my friend actually has an American lodger who used to live in San Jose, California, and he feels safer here). I was just pointing out the irony of the timing of my friend being assaulted, that's all. It's the first time I've been involved in anything like that and I'm 35 years old, having always lived in the UK.
I quite liked LA, even with all of its problems, as it interested me and is so different to the UK - although most people that I know who have been there haven't liked it. Each to their own I suppose.
Statistically speaking, London is now more dangerous for violent crime than New York, and LA is considered a fairly safe city overall. I also think that no other country has the amount of mindless, thicko chavs that we have and is the main reason why I want to emigrate - apart from the crap climate.
Wolverhampton is a *beep* Nothing is more depressing than Heath Town. I've had some good nights out in Nottingham, but an ex of mine was beaten-up by a club bouncer and broke his ankle. The guy got away with it. And that was 15 years ago.
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