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The movie that helps to show how stupid people really are

posted 17 years ago by white_fire4
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After reading all the "I don't get this, this doesn't work, this movie sucks" posts on this thread, and after watching it, I have come to the conclusion this is one of those movies that the general public is too stupid to understand, which is really quite pitiful. Most of you on this board that didn't understand even one thing in this movie deserve a smack upside the head.

At it's most basic core, this is a love story. A guy who is so hopelessly smitten with a girl he cannot work up the courage to just talk to, one who asks around to find out things about her, who, truthfully, resorts to some seriously creepy tactics, gets trapped in a car with the girl in the dead of night in the freezing cold. Aside from the 'ghosts', this entire movie shows the progress of the girl and how she matures and comes to understand that the way she has been living life is not the way to be. She comes to appreciate human life, comes to understand that love, even if it does end up being fleeting, can be a powerful thing. Despite everything he did wrong, he still got into her heart through perserverance and by being himself, and in the end she cared and was saddened by his death, so much so that she was looking fondly at the photo of him on her cell phone and shed even more tears for him. This, DESPITE everything that happened to her throughout the night. She didn't show elation at finally being out of the woods, away from the car, away from the cop ghost....she was only saddened by the fact that he didn't make it out with her. The final conversation between her and his ghost at the end and the tears she cries while looking at his photo in the last shot speak worlds about this. Yet most of you just focus on the fact "it didn't scare me, there was no blood and guts in an r rated movie, blah blah blah" like stupid simple sheep.

This is an amazing movie. It's a combination of a romance/drama and ghost flick. The ghosts only serve to bring the guy and girl together and strengthen their short lived bond. Not a single one of you understands or gets this, and you focus more on the ghosts than the nameless main characters and even shun the fact that they are nameless. It's an attempt to get you to care more about their character and personality instead of their damn name. Would it really have made a difference if they were named, oh say, Jennifer and Billy? More than likely you idiots probably would have just gone through the movie spouting idiotic crap like 'damn, that jennifer is a hottie, go billy, get with that hoe' and on and on. Nobody appreciates an actual decent movie anymore....and it's incredibly sad just how pathetically stupid the human race has become.

[–] WoodsboroFountain 17 years ago

Cool post! I really like this movie it gives you a lot to think about (the story itself & what the characters talk about). I guess it's okay to find a movie Boring, but you shouldn't call something stupid just because you don't GET IT. There are some movies I find boring, that I really wanted to like e.g Eternal Sunshine...

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[–] MyDearDelirious 17 years ago

I completely agree nobody gets it any more; all they care about is the blood and gore and skin in movies, not the story or the underlying message. And for me the fact that they didn’t have names added to it, their dialog seemed more real with them not adding each other’s names into every other sentence as an obvious ploy to make the watches understand who’s who.

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[–] csu_john 17 years ago

I only wish you put up a spoiler alert before you posted this.

[–] carmmm4 17 years ago

Me too. Now I have no reason to watch it.

[–] The_Pickle 17 years ago

By the second or third sentence, it should've been more than obvious that he was going to talk about details within the movie. You could've easily bailed out at that point...

[–] Tyrannosaurus_sex 17 years ago

The ending made me feel really really sad, and when I saw just how $ hitty the car was well that made me feel even more sad because well, when the car dies, so will they. I have no hang ups about it, it was cool

[–] nes-advantage 17 years ago

you are a pompous *beep*

[–] The_Pickle 17 years ago

I agree with your rant that there are too many stupid people in the world...but I think you're placing too much emphasis on the love story angle. There was no doubt a love story-type of component to it, but it's not as profound as you make it out to be. They didn't know each other well enough for there to be love between them. The guy was clearly infatuated with the girl, and by the end, she found him endearing as well, but they never got a chance at love, hence no love story.

If there's one theme to the movie that transcends all the others, I would say it's a story about redemption. The girl's entire bitchy attitude towards life does a 180 by the end of the film. It takes his death for her to realize that she better straighten her life out, and quick. Through his death, she redeems herself. That's the underlying theme, I believe.

If there are lessons to be learned by the audience, I would say there are two of them. The first one is from the girl's perspective. The lesson we learn from her is that being a bitch and thinking you're oh-so-cool by being difficult is just lame...and ultimately it gets you nowhere, and you miss out on life with that kind of attitude. The second lesson, from the guy's perspective, is that if you want something, you should go after it. Maybe you'll succeed, and maybe you won't...but at least you'll have tried while you were alive with endless opportunities in front of you.

[–] Mr_Saxon 17 years ago

Well said The Pickle.

Oh and your name makes me laugh. :)

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[–] moviewizguy 17 years ago

Ok, why do they keep going back in time? First she's out and when the guy hits the police, they get back in the car. When she gets picked up by the gasoline guy, they are still on the same road but in the same place...

[–] twilightfun 17 years ago

Look, I will watch it again (feel like I've wasted my money, so I had better give it another chance). But anyway, I want to like it, and I find that the explanations here will give it a big hand in my book. Thanks. I probably just got bored the first time. Yeah, I think so. But they weren't bad actors or anything, to me. Like I said, I was just bored. Maybe 'cause I was already tired. You know, like when you're around a friend you normally shoot it with...but he/she keeps talking and talking and you don't quite want to be mean and just frown at their conversation that isn't quite hitting today; so you instead laugh a fake laugh at weak jokes and act like it's all good? Well, people do that to each other all the time, so the intention's kinda good. It's just that sometimes you might have to do a double-take.

[–] BlaCKhaNd 17 years ago

i got it, i still didnt like it. it was just a bad film. acting was fine for the most part but the script needed some work. i dont like horrors that much so believer me it wasnt the lack of blood or gore that made me dislike this film it just wasnt that interesting.

[–] VinnieJones 17 years ago

I fink da message of da film doe was that u shuld take a blanket wen u take a shortcut from da highway LOL!

[–] ColoradoLady 16 years ago

I was wondering the same thing - if the guy was "getting kicked out of his apartment," then what happened to his bedding, along with his other belongings in the trunk and back seat of the car? Silly me to think that people who move take their bedding with them. As I watched the movie, I was waiting for the appearance of at least a blanket or comforter.

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[–] nicko721 16 years ago

i don't think he was really getting kicked out of his apartment.
it was just him having all the stuff for a romantic date.
remember it was like pans and food and such?
:D

[–] Siriry 10 years ago

But if he wasn't getting kicked out of his apartment it's odd tbat he had a landline phone in his car trunk.

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[–] The_Pickle 17 years ago

> Oh and your name makes me laugh. :)

Hah..
Sometimes it has that same effect even on me.. :)

[–] judy-229 17 years ago

I agree to what Mr.Picle said about the lessons, but Im not sure about the "not being a love-story"

either way it seems impossible to us to imagine falling so hard for a girl, come a bit obsessive and then loving her. big difference, but I think that he never really tought that she would accept him anyway. he had some weird moments, where it reveals some of his anger towards himself and her( himself for not being accepted by her, and by her for not rewarding him with her acceptance for all her devotion)

we feel they glide more and more apart from eachother, but as firstposter said, they get closer because of theyr similtan situation and the fear for the ghosts.
like she said, the ghosts is not important really, they are just needed to bring the boy and girl together.

Btw I-dont-know-your-name-but-you-started-this-thread, I dont think you should rant about people not understanding a movie. I understood this one, and I tought it quite easy to do so, but it is also funny and interesting to get more opinions.
when you rant like that and tell everyone is stupid, you are belittleing their questions. People should be ENCOURAGED to ask questions, not the other way around. :)

I totally loved that they were name-less, but after the movie, I pictured the girl as Alice, and the guy with a old-mans-name like Berhard.

you can fill that into Fanfiction you know :P

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[–] Charlie Goose 17 years ago

Forget about the movie for a second. Why on Earth do you feel the need to be so rude and obnoxious about it? I can't imagine you're this insulting to people you meet face to face, so does the anonymity of a message board lend itself to such behavior? I'll never understand why some folks love to ruin forums like this with sheer nastiness,

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[–] Induna 17 years ago

It's just people make sweeping generalisations. I'm sure most people understood the underlying message in this film, it's not eactly rocket science.

They come on to an online forum and see a couple of threads saying dumb things and assume that EVERYBODY in the world thinks like that.

[–] ColoradoLady 16 years ago

I wholeheartedly agree. One of the best pieces of advice that I ever received (to which I try to adhere) is that anyone can make his or her point without being rude. Sometimes it is appropriate and amusing to poke a bit of facetious commentary at clear idiocy, but again, rudeness is intentional and irrelevant to the point being made.

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[–] Gazzskull 17 years ago

Maybe if they didn't try and promote it as being a horror movie, people wouldn't be so harsh in their opinion of it. After reading the back of this DVD in the video store, it said it was "part silent hill, part the shining." Since I was in the mood for that type of movie, I decided to rent it, and didn't get what I was after.

I'm not saying that it was a bad movie, just that it wasn't my type of movie at all. Was there even a need for all the ghosts? If the main plot revolved around the relationship between the two main characters, why emphasise the ghosts and horror side of it?

I love supernatural horror movies, but lately I've been conned time and time again into watching movies that seem to throw in some ghouls and ghosts for no good reason at all, which does tend for me to look down on the film and not to judge it on the way it should be judged.

[–] Jimbadooboo 17 years ago

THREAD STARTER:

Wow, you certainly think alot of yourself, don't you? I guess I would too, if I had such high-brow tastes as "Wind Chill". Forget "Citizen Kane".

Yes, the film was all the things you mentioned. However, it was also not particularly inventive, well-written, or thought-out.

The pacing is bad, it was totally predictable after the first act, full of cliches, and the moment the "bad cop" shows up, completely arbitrary in plot. If they would have had the courage to do something more unique with the story, it could have been saved. It was great until it deteriorated to your average thriller.

It would have rocked if in the end, you find out that the two of them have been dead for a REALLY long time, and they are actually living through the event over and over. Something to tie the movie into the philosophy spoken about. Give it a point.

[–] dknj727 17 years ago

Jimba. . .

I agree. I thought the reason the philosophy kept being brought up and the reason they couldn't escape that area was because they were trapped there, living the same moment over and over. There were many arbitrary and seemingly unnecessary elements to the story--almost as if there were two movies/plots--one about the crooked cop and one about they guy and girl. The ending left a little to be desired in that I kept waiting for an actual point, something to tie all the elements together.

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[–] Tofutti_Klein 17 years ago

THREAD STARTER:

Wow, you certainly think alot of yourself, don't you? I guess I would too, if I had such high-brow tastes as "Wind Chill". Forget "Citizen Kane".

Yes, the film was all the things you mentioned. However, it was also not particularly inventive, well-written, or thought-out.

The pacing is bad, it was totally predictable after the first act, full of cliches, and the moment the "bad cop" shows up, completely arbitrary in plot. If they would have had the courage to do something more unique with the story, it could have been saved. It was great until it deteriorated to your average thriller.

It would have rocked if in the end, you find out that the two of them have been dead for a REALLY long time, and they are actually living through the event over and over. Something to tie the movie into the philosophy spoken about. Give it a point.

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[–] trevvymac76 17 years ago

Just watched the film. I thought that wa going to be the twist - I think it would have been better if at the end their story started from the beginning again when they crashed the car indicating they were just one of the many ghosts re-living thier story and whole time they had been dead.

[–] wipy 15 years ago

That's actually a marketing ploy to surprise you. People tend to do that on low budget productions.

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[–] Tofutti_Klein 17 years ago

Lol, your post only justifies the film's stupidity. You call it amazing. We can all see this is a creepy love story and somewhat of a coming of age tale, but NONE of that changes the fact that premise is some lame campfire tale. Two kids trapped in the middle of nowhere are being hunted by ghosts. BOOGA BOOGA. This geek is in love with a girl who wouldn't normally give him the time of day. Alone and desperate, she opens up to him. Awe that's so sweet. There's a 'philosophical' theory in the subtext. Genius! It's been done......and it's still sucks, no matter how you try to look at it. get over it.

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[–] cailan 17 years ago

TOFUTTI -- I *beep* love you said -BOOGA BOOGA!- I luff that Tofutti Klein ... :s

I am so stealing that as mah Catchphrase!!!111!!

[–] Tofutti_Klein 17 years ago

Lol, I'm flattered that you found that so...amusing.

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