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Why Did Dolores Betray Those Men?


I’m talking about the hosts at the fort. She had her own men slaughter them all for the purpose of ensuring her survival but the thing is I fail to see how killing them all A: Helped in the fight. B: Was crucial to her & her people’s survival.

Anybody else know? Seems Dolores has gone true mad dog. Double crossing & killing anyone, even her own for her personal reasons.

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You should put a spoiler tag in the thread title then ask your question that reveals plot points.

My take on it is, strategically, she needed the humans to think they had the upper hand in that she provided them a turkey shoot. It clustered their forces into a bottleneck where she knew the nitroglycerin would blow them all up at once.

As far as her justifyimg killing her own kind I’m not sure. She said something like not everyone deserves a place in the new world she was trying to build.

What will Dolores do to Teddy for letting the major and his men go? I’m sure that will come back to bite them in the ace.

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people that aren't caught up shouldnt come here, because all we talk about are spoilers

or if they do, ask a question, without delving into threads that might well reveal things they havent seen.

jmho

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You’d think they would avoid these threads but they don’t then you get a message from a moderator (if someone decides to report it).

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good to know. i just discovered recently that this site had imported the imdb threads, to my great joy.

very grateful to these folks.

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I'm just trying to figure out why the Delos Corporation army wasn't wearing any protective headgear... like what the heck?

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Or flak jackets for that matter.

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Yeah. That was pretty weird. They just seemed to act like the regular security teams. Absolutely no protocol change whatsoever in the light of a park wide systems failure. I would have Predators/Reapers/whatever the future equivalent is patrolling the skies. I wouldn't be cruising around in fucking open sided, unarmored buggys. You would think they have APCs, helicopters e.t.c. Their body armour looked crap with thin metal plates. Looks like someone from wardrobe came up with them with no idea about body armour. I would be kitted out like a military unit. Proper armour, night vision, perhaps supplement their PDWs with some more appropriate weapons for longer range engagements. Bring some grenade launchers too. And they give Charlotte a .22 pistol. Ah ha. Lot of use that will be.

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Forget the protective gear. They know full well that the robots are programmed as soldiers and outlaws. How about using some tactics instead of behaving like evil overlord's minions?

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Yeah and where was the US Military's AH-64D Longbow, Apache Helicopters, B-2 Spirit, F-22 Raptor, F-35 Lightning, etc? At the very least a Nimitz-class Aircraft Carrier stationed off the island to contain the host threat would be sufficient.

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That was sarcasm I presume.

The new security team is clearly composed of ex-military types and I'm sure they were briefed about the hosts' offensive capabilities. Walk-n-shoot tactics would mean heavy casualties even in the Samurai World, leave alone a place filled with firearms.

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So, any predictions on Teddy’s life expectancy, now that Wyatt, I mean Dolores, has seen him disobey her order to execute the Confederatos? I’m going with “not long.” Maybe fruitfly long.

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Nah, Teddy is her rock. He'll keep her anchored and find a way back to not being evil again.

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I dunno about that, we did see Teddy dead in the water in the present timeline.

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I've got some speculation about that, could be completely wrong though. I think many of the hosts 'Transcend' into some ethereal plane/magic online database to prevent themselves from being tortured or from torturing any more. Sort of angels cast from heaven into hell or from hell into heaven. The water symbolises bapptism of course, with a fire being elsewhere (Where Dolores is most likely).

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I don't know. It's an interesting idea but I think all those bodies are just replica hosts they have printed themselves to not raise any suspicions as to where loads of them have gone should they make it to our world.

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Replica bodies makes sense too RFH, but what about their memories stored in their minds. They'd need a convincing way to make it look like they'd been wiped.

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They could extract that core brain thing from each one and dispose of it when they make it to our world. Nothing to read/worry about wiping.

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Dolores (aka Wyatt) had answered this question already. When she said "These men are just children...They need to be led.", she was talking about those hosts who could have different roles in different lives. Later, when she admitted "Truth is, we don't all deserve to make it.", she was talking about the role of Confederados who are animals as Teddy described. Obviously, if those hosts remain as Confederados role, then Dolores won't be able to lead them, as shown by the "C'mon. Ask me twice." challenging.
My guess is that Dolores is planning for a long term fight. After suppress of the rebellion, the management should realize that putting a confederal army in the west world is dangerous, hence they will assign new roles to those hosts to make it simple, and then Dolores would have her chance to recruit them. Dr. Ford had said "You need time to learn how to survive."

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