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Final Fantasy VII references?! *SPOILERS*


i've just watched this movie (and loved it, but that's irrelevant) and my Final-Fantasy-VII-obsessed sister notice quite a few HEAVY references to both the game and the movie Advent Children! here they go:

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> the aproximate shape, relative size and handling of 8's biggest "sword" resembles Cloud/Zack's Buster sword in EVERY way - he even carries it on a magnet on his back, instead of in a sheath tied to his waist!

> 2's funeral, when they put him in some floating thing and send him drifting across a blue tinted lake (sewer). that scene heavily reminds of FFVII's (the game) scene when Cloud takes Aerith (who's also irreversibly dead) to that blue tinted magical lake, surrounded by trees, to bury her!

and last, but not by any means the least...

> the ending scene, when the souls of the dead are freed - they are green in colour, ascend to the sky where they blow apart, causing "magical" rain to fall (rain that includes tiny life forms that will presumably revive the planet). this particular scene resembles a major plot element from both the FFVII game(s) and movie - when someone dies, they break apart in countless green light particles that blow away, usualy towards the sky, returning to the planet's Life Stream, and in some cases they actually cause it to rain (like Kadaj's death in AC)!

question #1 : did anyone else notice these?

question #2 : if so, do you think this was some kind of direct reference/homage to said game/movie?

it'd be really interesting, if this was all made on purpose. in my opinion, that only shows that whoever wrote the plot and designed those scenes has some really good taste! :D

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Square-Enix takes a lot of mythology and historical references and litters them throughout the Final Fantasy games. Though I do somewhat agree that there could have been inspiration from the FF series, not just specifically VII. Look at "7" in the film and Freya from Final Fantasy IX... see any resemblance there?

An interesting undertaking is to google some creatures, classes, even names at times from Final Fantasy and check out what the reference is for. It's pretty interesting stuff.

Anyway, I can see what you're saying about the movie. Without knowing of the "original" references that could have driven what was put in the movie, I can understand falling back on something you do know better. You should check some of the stuff out sometime though... it really enhances the experience in the long run when watching movies or playing games.

That's all I got.

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7 is definitely a lot like Freya...similar weapon...also 7 wears pretty much a Freya mask during most of the film...definitely saw a lot of FF influence here

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I understand how someone could mistake these for FagFest 7 references if they didn't know that these ideas have been around long before FF.

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> the aproximate shape, relative size and handling of 8's biggest "sword" resembles Cloud/Zack's Buster sword in EVERY way - he even carries it on a magnet on his back, instead of in a sheath tied to his waist!

This would have made sense if #7 was the one carrying it. But it was #8. Also 8 was a big brute-type, nothing like FFVII's Buster Sword wielders. The blade itself resembled more Pyramid Head's knife (Silent Hill) than the Buster Sword. In fact, it looked nothing like the Buster Sword other than being an oversized blade (something extremely common in many other stuff).

> 2's funeral, when they put him in some floating thing and send him drifting across a blue tinted lake (sewer). that scene heavily reminds of FFVII's (the game) scene when Cloud takes Aerith (who's also irreversibly dead) to that blue tinted magical lake, surrounded by trees, to bury her!

Actually, that was more of a 'greek funeral'. Being put in a boat and with a coin on his head (usually over eyes), that's all ceremonial greek funerals, where they send them off to sea so the Boatman can collect his soul and ferry him/her to the underworld.

Aerith was dumped in the lake like a serial killer does when disposing corpses.

> the ending scene, when the souls of the dead are freed - they are green in colour, ascend to the sky where they blow apart, causing "magical" rain to fall (rain that includes tiny life forms that will presumably revive the planet). this particular scene resembles a major plot element from both the FFVII game(s) and movie - when someone dies, they break apart in countless green light particles that blow away, usualy towards the sky, returning to the planet's Life Stream, and in some cases they actually cause it to rain (like Kadaj's death in AC)!

Almost....but no. If you think neon colored souls ascending to the sky originated from FFVII, you need to watch more movies and read more books... The rain is and has always been the symbol for 2 things: Life and purity. In "9" it goes by the meaning of "life" since that's how life started and in the movie you see tiny microbes in it. In FFVII Advent Children, the rain we see at the end is merely "purity" which just cleanses all the humans from the disease that was destroying them.

Really, the only reason you're associating this movie with FFVII is because they share a similar theme...a cliché theme that can be found in a lot of other media. You can compare this with Avatar, Star Wars etc.

in my opinion, that only shows that whoever wrote the plot and designed those scenes has some really good taste! :D

Or no originality, hence the mediocre-ness of the film.

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Yes. Absolutely. Final Fantasy VII's plot is almost parallel to this one, the planet is harmed by humanities creations. As soon as I saw the church I was instantly reminded of Advent Children and then when '8' took out his Buster Sword I was convinced that there is no way that whoever was in charge of visual representation in this film didn't have had some kind of conscious influence from those games.

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I love when people see something that's quite common, but that they have only seen once before and immediately assume that it is a reference or homage. It's cute, the limited wisdom of youth at work.



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