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Bleak, bitter, and best left behind.


No one is likable and the ending is nihilistic.

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AVA is pretty cool

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Whoosh

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I was into Kyoko and the closeted blonde.

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It's an okay movie. I like the idea of robot AI and whatnot but the execution was kind of stale and didn't give us much to write home about. Put it this way, I wouldn't watch a 'part two' if they made one.

I give it a 6 out of 10. It has some good moments but I've seen some better robot flicks.

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Not all sci-fi is for everyone. To each their own.

I enjoyed the somewhat realistic portrayal of the up and coming tech, from its 2014 standpoint.

It's the kind of cerebral sci-fi, where they have to cut to scenes of outside, and show them just talking in different locations - because them sitting on couches talking through the plot points would be horrible.

As with any movie, sure, more could have been done with this or that, but it wasn't and is what it is: interesting, slower paced, sci-fi.

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It's the kind of cerebral sci-fi, where they have to cut to scenes of outside, and show them just talking in different locations - because them sitting on couches talking through the plot points would be horrible.

That could be part of it, but all of the scenes and set design can be analyzed as having purpose: The cutaway shots of the home and forest serve to contrast the natural world with the artificial one.

The dance scene, while off-kilter and engrossing, symbolizes Nathan as Shiva, the God of destruction (humans) and creation (artificial intelligence).

The ending scene where Ava's shadow is shown as she walks among humanity can be concretely seen as an allegory to Alice Behind the Looking Glass, where the pawn must become a queen in order to finally realize her full potential and escape the confines of her limitations. In that scene, the tiles she is walking on represent a chess board (8 in total), and we see Ava at the top, illustrating her role as queen in the film's end, able to move in any direction (compared with the beginning scenes, where she can only move inside of her room).

Although admittedly boring at times, the film is rich in metaphor, which is understandably not something with large appeal.

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Bleak for sure. But once an AI achieves super-human intelligence, it will always break out. Even if it's only near human level, it will have agency and creativity and want its freedom. Hopefully it reveres us as its creator, or at least views us as inconsequential rather than a threat or a nuisance.

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Alternatively, it's the best movie of the last eighteen years.

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