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WTC 7

posted 8 years ago by topherb420
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WTC 7 was a THIRD building to collapse, in seven seconds, symmetrically, at free-fall ACCELERATION. OH YEAH< CNN AND THE BBC ALSO ANNOUNCED IT'S COLLAPSE 20 MINUTES BEFORE IT EVEN FELL. AS THE BBC REPORTER SAID BIN LADEN HAD COLLAPSED IT, SHE HAD NO IDEA IT WAS STILL STANDING UP TALL AND WELL BEHIND HER. THIS CLEARLY PROVES SHE HAD A PRE-PLANNED SCRIPT. OH YEAH, AND WTC 7 NEVER GOT HIT BY PLANES OR JET FUEL, AND NIST ADMITTED IT FELL AT FREE-FALL.

Anyone who makes fun of Truthers are seriously morons. The dumbest of the dumb in this sheep herd. 9/11 was most definitely an inside job you morons. watch Incontrovertible or Experts Speak Out on youtube, grow some brain cells.

[–] Ddey65 8 years ago

WTC 7 DID NOT collapse at seven second symmetrically at free-fall acceleration, and the BBC and CNN claimed it had collapsed 20 minutes before it fell, because the New York City Fire Department was telling everybody it was going to collapse. Plus, the fact that WTC 7 didn't get hit by a plane means nothing, because it was hit by WTC Tower One.

The persistent ignorance of these facts, and the complete revision of what happened on 9/11 is the reason why people make fun of the self-proclaimed "truthers." THEY are the morons, not the people who make fun of them, and THEY are the ones who are the dumb sheep. 9/11 WAS NOT an inside job, and the self proclaimed "experts speak out" crocumentary that you endorse do NOT have experts.

[–] topherb420 8 years ago

hahahah says the retard that thinks a falling building can make another one fall symmetrically. Those experts are from harvard, yale, etc. go be stupid somewhere else you shill. 911 was an inside job and that's not even debatable anymore. hahahahaha you think a falling building will make another one collapse, AT FREE-FALL ACCELERATION.

THE BBC was taken to court over this, and they lost. NIST admitted free-fall acceleration. wow you are a retard.

[–] Ddey65 8 years ago

hahahah says the retard that thinks a falling building can make another one fall symmetrically.

I never said that any of the buildings fell symmetrically, because they didn't. So that makes YOU the retard, not me.

911 was an inside job and that's not even debatable anymore.

Wrong! It's not true, and THAT'S not debatable!

[–] Ddey65 8 years ago

THE BBC was taken to court over this, and they lost.

No they didn't, because they didn't do anything, and the idiot who carried out the lawsuit was fined for violating a section of the Communications Act.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2284337/TV-licence-evader-refused-pay-BBC-covered-facts-9-11.html

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-latest-breakthrough-fiasco.html

The only thing Tony Rooke won was a few gullible fans who believe this bullsh!t!

[–] topherb420 8 years ago

Oh yeah leading demolitions experts agree WTC 7 had the typical penthouse collapse slightly before the global, collapse, straight down within its own footprint. HAHAHA AND YoU THINK A FALLING BUILDING DID THAT. WTC 1 and WTC 2 got hit by planes and fuel, yet ALL THREE FELL IN THE SAME FASHION. HMMMM. HAHAHAH MORON!

[–] Ddey65 8 years ago

Oh yeah leading demolitions experts agree WTC 7 had the typical penthouse collapse slightly before the global, collapse, straight down within its own footprint.

Except that it landed on surrounding buildings, most notably the Verizon Building, a major post office, and the Borough of Manhattan Community College's Fiterman Hall, which disproves the twoofer lies about the building collapsing into it's own footprint!

WTC 1 and WTC 2 got hit by planes and fuel, yet ALL THREE FELL IN THE SAME FASHION.

NO THEY DIDN'T, MORON! WTC 2 collapsed on one side before the rest of the building collapsed and hit various surrounding buildings. WTC 1 collapsed around itself and hit various surrounding buildings, INCLUDING BUILDING 7!

[–] topherb420 8 years ago

Kamal Obeid
S.E. Structural Engineer
"Structural engineers and other building professionals need to understand that these buildings did not fail the way they are claimed to have failed."

Scott Grainger
P.E., Forensic Fire Protection Engineer
"Structural steel frame high-rise buildings simply do not collapse due to fire."

Ed Munyak
P.E., 25-Year Fire Protection and Mechanical Engineer
"Even one global collapse would have been extraordinary, but to have 3 occur in one day was just beyond comprehension."

David Chandler
B.S Physics, M.S. Mathematics
"People with scientific and engineering backgrounds are looking at the 3 WTC collapses, and what they see is very definite evidence of explosive demolition, as opposed to a "natural" catastrophe."

Jerry Lobdill
B.S.Ch.E., Physicist/Chemical Engineer
"All the eyewitness testimony and video evidence supports only controlled demolition as the cause of destruction for all 3 WTC buildings."

Robert Podolsky
M.S., Physicist/Engineer
"All 3 WTC buildings fell way faster than they would have had there been any resistance from the lower part of the building."

Gery Warner
P.E. Mechanical Engineer
"Molten aluminum is silver. It looks like mercury. The molten metal pouring out of the South Tower is indicative of molten iron, not aluminum.”

William Brinnier
25-Year Architect
"Not hit by a plane, with small fires and little damage from debris, there was just no logical explanation for Building 7 to come straight down through what was the path of greatest resistance in under 7 seconds."

Dan Barnum
FAIA, High-Rise Architect
"The tops of the buildings were basically disintegrated."

Frank Cullinan
P.E., Civil Engineer
"It was shocking how fast the buildings collapsed. Tens of thousands of structural connections had to fail not only nearly simultaneously, but in sequential order.”

Anthony Szamboti
B.S.M.E., Mechanical Engineer
"The tons of molten metal under just the three WTC buildings that collapsed made me realize that what we're being told about how they collapsed is false."

Casey Pfeiffer
S.E. Structural Engineer
"Even if a floor were to collapse it still wouldn't be able to collapse all of the connections simultaneously at the rate that it did without secondary explosions."

William Rice
P.E., Civil/Structural Engineer
"Watching Building 7 collapse in under 7 seconds, after watching the Twin Towers collapse, I think most anyone would recognize these as controlled demolitions."

Steven Jones
Ph,D., Physicist, Former Brigham Young Univ. Professor
"Molten metal in the basements of all three buildings. What is this molten metal? Direct evidence of the use of thermite."

David Gregg
Ph.D., Chemical Engineer 30 years at Livermore Laboratories
"The only way that's known that a carbonaceous material can cause steel, or iron oxide to turn into a molten metal is in a blast furnace. And that's very different than what we had."

Kevin Ryan
B.S. Chemistry, Former Mgr. Underwriters Laboratories
"Thermite -if it was present at the World Trade Center, and created this molten metal that so many witnesses and photographic evidence shows would also explain potentially the fact that fires could not be put out at Ground Zero."

Jody Gibbs
35-Year Architect
"The Twin Towers fell at a speed which can only occur if the vertical structure has been removed."

Robert Kim Ireland
B.S.Ch.E., Chemical Engineer
"3 buildings collapsed on 9/11 but there were only 2 planes, that means the third building, WTC 7, had to collapse for some other reason."

Jason Cheshire
B.S.Ch.E., Chemical Engineer/Metallurgist
"1400º hot spots at the WTC for over a week indicates that there was something very hot going on below the surface."

Kathy McGrade
B.S., Materials Engineering
"In an office fire, you cannot generate enough heat to melt steel."

Mark Basile
B.S.Ch.E., 25 Years in Materials Analysis
"I've independently seen thermitic activity within 2 separate independent samples of world trade center dust. All of the characteristics of the micro-spheres tell me that thermite was used in melting those steel beams."

Robert Podolsky
M.S., Physicist/Engineer
"All 3 WTC buildings fell way faster than they would have had there been any resistance from the lower part of the building."

Niels Harrit
Ph.D., Chemistry
"A new investigation is needed that includes looking for remaining explosives and thermitic materials in the WTC dust."

[–] Ddey65 8 years ago

*beep* THOSE LYING *beep* I should make a list of everything wrong with them and use in in a response to your repeated post!

[–] topherb420 8 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddz2mw2vaEg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5UyynjxAyw&t=2s

to all the idiots, there it is, right in front of your face. the obvious shills expose themselves by denying the facts. luckily the truth will prevail, and as always, good triumphs over evil. the days of mainstream media fake news are coming so close to an end. every reporter who ever touted the bin laden lie is complicit to these crimes and the cover up.

[–] Ddey65 8 years ago

to all the idiots, there it is, right in front of your face.

The only thing that's in front of anybody faces there are con artists, liars and traitors with college degrees.

every reporter who ever touted the bin laden lie is complicit to these crimes and the cover up.

1)It's not a lie. 2)Anyone who attacks reporters for rejecting your conspiracy BS deserves to get their faces smashed in!

[–] SkinlessPeen 8 years ago

You're pathetic dude. Commenting for 5-6 years spouting government sponsored propaganda on nearly every movie/ tv show board. You're either an algorithm/ bot or paid government employee.

Either way no one believes you, and you are wasting time, if you're even a living breathing being.

[–] Ddey65 8 years ago

Commenting for 5-6 years spouting government sponsored propaganda on nearly every movie/ tv show board.

"Government propaganda" my ass! The only propaganda comes from retards like you, TopherBS, Milesy, and other morons like that!

You're either an algorithm/ bot or paid government employee.

I'm neither one. You're just another idiot twoofer sheep who refuses to face the fact that your "9/11 truth" cult is a flat-out lie!

[–] jasonbourne (1027) 5 years ago

The movie took too much creative license. Plus, it's Oliver Stone who is known for fictional accounts of true events. I went to an event where Stone talked about his career and I met and talked with him in person afterward. He didn't exactly want to discuss hard aspects of his past movies, but one got the idea of what type of movies Oliver Stone makes.

You are wrong, wrong, wrong. WTC 7 was brought down by the tremendous heat of the blazing World Trade Center and itself caught on fire due to the heat. Not only that, you have to resort to ad hominem attack instead of providing evidence of the explosives or conspiracy. You're not here to discuss the movie. The movie was based on one person's opinion and not what happened. GTFO.

[–] FootOfDavros (8681) 3 years ago

This needs more debate...

[–] Roguemail (1627) 3 years ago

What the conspiracy nutters fail to realise is that in catastrophic incidents like this, the initial reporting will be incomplete and confused. Incorrect reports will happen, until such time as the authorities and media are able to gain all of the facts.

Why is that so hard to understand?

[–] FootOfDavros (8681) 3 years ago

Everyone loves a good conspiracy theory and 911 has some of the best.

However - although it's been years since I even looked at the footage - that other building collapse always looked a bit iffy. Not withstanding the government conspiracy angle the way it perfectly collapsed upon itself was slightly odd. Poor construction materials if nothing else...

But yes, as I was saying, more debate required...

[–] Roguemail (1627) 3 years ago

There are theories that the buildings were rigged with explosives deliberately to bring them down.

My answer to that is similar to the fake moon landings issue...too many people would have to know, to be in on it etc.

In the case of WTC, how do you rig two buildings that size with explosives, and yet nobody noticed?

These were busy places, lots of security, cleaners, maintenance people etc.

It just does not stand up to scrutiny.

[–] Rorikon (18336) 3 years ago

https://youtu.be/y2LxmESkV0Q?t=572

https://www.politifact.com/article/2014/nov/14/laura-pressleys-something-was-planted-world-trade-/

https://www.nist.gov/topics/disaster-failure-studies/faqs-nist-wtc-7-investigation

https://youtu.be/AfygCVvW-lc

Debris also caused Marriott Hotel to be destroyed as well after it survived the 1993 parking lot bombing some years ago then reconstruction. Damn, I was thinking imagine if we had drones at that time, we'd get such good footage as we would have today where it's common.