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Offensive to Chinese (Asian) girls


I'm not one of those 'zOmg-AZN-PrYde' girls, but I found some of the dialogue offensive and demeaning to Asian girls. It almost felt as if they implied white girls are better.

Examples:
When Liam told Adi that he "met another girl in China," Adi's response was "What? You're dumping me for some girl? For some CHINESE girl?"

The way she emphasized "Chinese" girl just felt unnecessary. Are Chinese girls not worthy enough for her to get chosen over? Would she feel better if Liam dumped her for a white girl? Her disbelief that she was dumped for a *Chinese* girl is offensive.

Also, just some of the stuff Liam's friend says after Liam gets off the plane is weird. It almost felt as if he were saying it's not worth it for Liam to move just for a "Chinese" girl. Why couldn't he just say "it's not worth leaving just for a girl"? Omit the "Chinese" part and it sounds much less condescending.

(Plus, comparing Kelly Hu to "just like any other Asian girl at Monterey Park" is insulting to Kelly :-P)

Anyways, I really enjoyed "Shanghai Kiss" overall. It's definitely a "feel-good" movie and I have alot of ABC friends who can relate to Liam, so it was interesting for me to watch this movie. My only criticism is that some parts of the dialogue were offensive to Chinese girls...

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strange, how it seems to me the only "Azns" who write this tripe are somehow very fluent in English, mainly North American English.

seriously, Asians in Asia don't give a *beep* it's a movie. If you think this is offensive, most of Jackie Chan's or Stephen Chow's crap is much worse.

GD internet, everyone thinks they are the spokesperson for their effing nationality.


--anti-dubber.

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Thank you, this had to be said.

I'm Asian, Vietnamese to be exact, but I grew up in Canada. I'm completely oblivious to Vietnamese culture, and I don't pretend I'm not. That being said though, I'm only attracted to Vietnamese girls - just because of the extra connection..being able to joke in Viet, talk about experiences visiting back home, etc. You can't help who you're attracted to right?

If it weren't for White Male/Asian female BS being shoved in my face, and I don't mean from the media, I'm talking about the outcries of Asian males who think they're entitled to Asian girls or whatever, I personally never would have caught on. Maybe it's from my own experience?

I'm from Ottawa, it's not exactly known for it's Asian population, and my school was probably 90% white. I'm pretty sure I consisted of 25% of the Asian male population. But for every WM/AF couple I see, I probably see 10 more that are Asian Male / Asian Female. Asian females LOVE Asian guys, regardless of location, THAT is the norm. You're just more attracted to what makes you feel comfortable, like home.

I just find it ludicrous that more often than not, the same Asian guys complaining about White Male / Asian Female tend to turn around, and put White girls on a pedestal..just sayin'.

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Max, Asian females do not LOVE Asian males regardless of the loccation. THAT is NOT the norm. Where the heck did you get that from?

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Interesting thread. Many good points.

I think the fact that this was a straight-to-DVD release with no theatrical debut is telling of the long way the representation of Asian-American males (and Asian-Americans in general) in film has to go.

It was an entertaining, intelligent, insightful film that could be enjoyed regardless of the interracial elements--e.g., for the themes of self-discovery, cultural displacement, and identity--yet apparently no mainstream producer wanted to pick it up for widespread Hollywood-style distribution. So it remains a relatively unknown indy film. What does this say about the current state of American media?

On a related note, when will Asian-Americans have their Denzel Washingtons, Will Smiths, George Lopezes, and Mario Lopezes? Poster t-adorissio has a point that the stock of Asian-American actors is probably fairly limited, no doubt due in part to current cultural upbringing that tends to steer young Asian-Americans from entering the entertainment industry.

But surely there is more to it than that. Hollywood, as it has often been said, does not perceive a market for leading Asian-American actors, and it may in fact be right. The one thing we can count on with Hollywood is knowing by and large what the American entertainment consumer at large will pay to watch. Considering the tastes and viewpoints of the latter, that we have severely underrepresented Asian-American leads is no surprise. And so continues a vicious cycle between the way Asian-Americans are viewed by the public at large and the way Hollywood chooses to portray them. It's no coincidence that the two go hand in hand.

I truly hope this cycle is broken and a shift towards Asian-Americans appearing in mainstream roles in mainstream media occurs sometime during my lifetime.

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At least you come to an understanding that the line was not meant to demean Chinese women...which you do understand right?
The only thing I like to say about that line is that maybe you shouldn't considered it too offensive when you find just a smidgen of negativity. Certain things were never meant to harm but people's viewpoint make it so it is. You cant change what was said but you can change how you view it so would you like to remember that line as a racist remark or just a immature statement? If its racist then thats your prerogative but I'm just making a suggestion for future occasions to look past minor things like that.
I am a full-Vietnamese male and I kinda agree with the guys in this thread that Asian guys do get more scrutiny. The big thing Asian women have to deal with is the fetish and whore issue but guys have the height, sexuality, speech, and social issues that are all viewed negatively. It's not that big of a difference but I do think guys have it a bit worse in terms of stereotype. However, I definitely dont agree that racism towards Asian in Hollywood or America in general is a big issue. I dont experience much of the stereotype or maybe I just chose to ignore but it hasnt had a negative impact on me at all. It's good to see more and more Asian cast but its starting to overwhelm me. It seems as though Hollywood is pressured to change their original script because of people who sees it as "offensive" to not cast their race. An Asian movie can have an all-Asian cast and there is nothing wrong with that...why? Why is that situation immune to racism? It just doesnt make sense.

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Liam had issues with his father--obviously regarding the unresolved feelings he had about his mother's death. For that reason, he disassociated himself with his heritage. They anti-Chinese-girl aspect was just a device to make that clear.

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I am pretty sure she replied like that because Liam actually hated everything having to do with his Chinese roots before. He almost literally said he hates Chinese in the beginning of the movie. So it was kind of surprising that he suddenly fancied a Chinese girl.

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