Attempting to leave both politics and religion out of this (fat chance, I know):
But in a situation where the mom's life isn't in danger, and the pregnancy wasn't the result of rape, why is abortion still the first choice for a woman with an unwanted pregnancy? How many infertile Bateman-Garner-esque couples are out there? And isn't the waiting list to adopt children from Southeast Asia really long?
The abortion rate is actually way down and has declined the last 5 years. It used to be 1.5 million a year. Now it is less than half a million. In a country of 300 million, the rate is pretty low and really not worth all the debate. Teen age pregnancy is also way down. And if they do have them, they keep them.
It is not a first choice. Education is working and kids are using protection.
There are plenty of children available in the foster care system. Almost a million of them. We have a better system for getting dogs adopted then we do our children. Take in a foster child. You will be amazed.
The abortion rate is down, but so is the birth rate. Unfortunately, the PGR is still rising. Unfortunately, our amount of stupid people is also rising in record numbers.
Which brings us to the original question "why not more adoptions"? Plain and simple, it's foolish not to have an early abortion. In other words, it's stupid. For so many reasons, it would take 2hrs to list.
But in a situation where the mom's life isn't in danger, and the pregnancy wasn't the result of rape, why is abortion still the first choice for a woman with an unwanted pregnancy?
Pregnancy is hell for 9 months and then you run the risk of falling in love with your child robbing the adoptive parents at the last minute. This happens a lot unfortunately. Also there are sooooo many kids already alive who desperately need to be adopted.
shareThey should not have sex if they don't want a baby.
share"Don't have sex if you don't want a baby"? This is an example of our "stupid people".
Do; people eat only to nurish the body?
people drive only for useful transportation?
people have oral just to avoid pregnancy?
But the average person has sex about once a week. That suggests that recreational sex is very common.
shareYou're talking about why more people with unwanted pregnancies don't consider putting the kid of for adoption? Right?
The title is a bit confusing. Almost seems like you're asking why don't more people who want children adopt them, rather than having them biologically.
Anyway, for the answer:
1. Like another person said, pregnancy is stressful, painful, inconvenient, risky (even if doctors don't foresee the mother's life to be in danger) and can have permanent or long lasting changes to your body. Another downside the guy didn't mention is that even if you live among liberals, having an unwanted pregnancy is going to make you feel very judged. From experience, it's going to make you feel stupid, irresponsible and ashamed. Many people would rather have an abortion without anybody around them finding out. And with all the emotional and physical downside attached to an unwanted pregnancy, keeping it for nine months and putting it up for adoption isn't going to provide you with much upside at all. There isn't going to be much money (if any at all) if you didn't get paid to be a surrogate beforehand. The only possible upside would be your own spiritual beliefs or the knowledge that you have a biological offspring alive somewhere. And I think most strong people's spiritual beliefs would probably crumple under the pressure of an unwanted pregnancy.
2. "Adoption" isn't usually possible, from what I understand. Because of the number of kids waiting for adoption being much higher than the amount of people willing to adopt. A quick google search doesn't provide me with exact statistics, but I'm fairly sure this is the case. With foster care being more realistic than adoption, inflating the number of kids in foster care isn't necessarily a good thing for society as a whole.
Simply said, a woman has a choice between an inexpensive fast procedure, or a costly 9 month struggle of mental and physical anguish.
Also, choosing not to have an abortion for religious reasons, is like choosing not to go out in a full moon due to warewolves.
War, disease, pollution, natural disaster, rape, murder, and people just being themselves(mean, selfish)why in any sense would anyone want to bring more suffering into this world? Better never to have been by david benatar! You need an IQ over 80 to understand the book!
shareNot religious reasons, but what about morality...Juno couldn't do it after her class mate told her about "fingernails" this makes her think that she was not removing a "tissue" from her body like many people fool themselves into thinking, but she realized that she was killing a future person...hence she didn't do it for religious reasons but for not being able to do what she thought to be wrong.
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hence she didn't do it for religious reasons but for not being able to do what she thought to be wrong.
Juno: I couldn't do it. (to Leah)
Brenda: Have you considered...you know, the alternative?
Juno: No (although she indeed did)
The way Juno ran out of the abortion clinic...
Su-Chin: God appreciates your miracle.
I mean there are some hints scattered for anyone to see, she considered that it was not the right thing to do...People can elect to see the obvious or deny what makes you uncomfortable or what doesn't agrees with your ideology... The filmmakers clearly thought that shoving down the throats of their audience a pro-life message will not be productive and possibly "offend" half of their audience... If I wanted to make a movie about a message (call it pro-life or whatever political message I wanted to convey) I would do it carefully and discreetly and obviously will deny the movie had any political statement, agenda or intention to preach morality with which some part of the population seems to take offense nowadays.
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People can elect to see the obvious or deny what makes you uncomfortable or what doesn't agrees with your ideology.
The filmmakers clearly thought that shoving down the throats of their audience a pro-life message will not be productive and possibly "offend" half of their audience.
If I wanted to make a movie about a message (call it pro-life or whatever political message I wanted to convey) I would do it carefully and discreetly and obviously will deny the movie had any political statement, agenda or intention to preach morality with which some part of the population seems to take offense nowadays.
Like I said before, people deny what doesn't agree with your point of view. I found this movie gives a very good message. Is up to you to determine what is it... And why is it so bad, if some had the choice and then she decides that is wrong to kill a fetus because the idea of having a heart beat or fingernails already developed makes you feel like a murderer/ If that person had the choice but chose against abortion and voiced that he did it because he thought it was inmoral...Why that argument makes "pro-choice" advocates feel so uncomfortable? If you are so convinced the "pro choice" route is not, an inmoral or unethical choice why some one who thinks otherwise makes you feel... what is it ...guilty?
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Like I said before, people deny what doesn't agree with your point of view.
And why is it so bad, if some had the choice and then she decides that is wrong to kill a fetus because the idea of having a heart beat or fingernails already developed makes you feel like a murderer/
that is exactly what you are doing.
is no evidence within the movie that Juno thought this.
It is after all not murder to you, why if it feels like murder to a pregnant teenager has to make you feel uncomfortable?
I'm not talking about THIS movie anymore I said why pro-choice advocates get uncomfortable if a pregnant teenage girl feels that aborting her offspring is committing murder? Even with some discreet hints Juno in this movie could potentially indicate that by her change of heart (no evidence, yes you are right...very defensive, but right nonetheless) Although no evidence it seems that solely the HINT of Juno declining abortion for "potentially" considering it murder (the baby has fingernails quote) makes you so uncomfortable...is quite puzzling.
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I'm not talking about THIS movie anymore I said why pro-choice advocates get uncomfortable if a pregnant teenage girl feels that aborting her offspring is committing murder?
"why pro-choice advocates get uncomfortable if a pregnant teenage girl feels that aborting her offspring is committing murder?"
nobody feels like that. it's the right devision in every case.
why would they? abortion makes way more sense. it should be the preferred option.
shareThat is very rational
shareAbortion is a terrible option but sometimes the least terrible option. People, even people who have no desire for a child, are going to have sex so banking on abstinence is folly. The answer to this whole conundrum is USE BIRTH CONTROL! If people would slow down and take a minute to think and take simple precautions then 99% of the non-rape, non life threatening scenarios would be eliminated. I’ve helped raise three responsible, productive, tax-paying children to adulthood, it is a massive commitment and should only be undertaken by people that are 100% committed to it from the getgo.
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