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What Makes Movies Like This B.S.


This could never happen because real soldiers would not kill civilians in this manner. Not lining them up in trucks and mowing them down. This is just drivel made by people who have nothing but disdain for the military.

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I agree you would have to pull in a very specific unit who you had basically brain washed because when they find that truck I thought the same thing. I did enjoy this and I think part of what made this movie work was you had three stories. The protagonists, the infected, the government, but I agree your average recruit would never go along with something like that. Then again they were doing highly classified stuff so perhaps they handpicked people they knew would follow the orders without hesitation...

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Give me a break.

Soldiers do whatever they're told, the US military has done countless heinous things around the world.

Go read up on what they did to people trying to leave New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.

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I don't believe they would do that to their own countrymen, Candians? Sure, French? Why not, but there own people I think that unit has to be handpicked...

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Uh, Canadian soldiers wouldn't shoot innocents (now). American soldiers do it for fun.

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Now that is BS are you saying the soldiers shot Katrina refugees. Stay away from the conspiracy loons.

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Several were recently convicted of murdering innocent civilians in NO after Hurricane Katrina.

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So wait, you think this movie is BS because soldiers would never line up civilians and execute them, but the movie isn't BS because...well, I don't know, THE *beep* INHABITANTS OF THE TOWN DRINK CONTAMINATED WATER AND TURN INTO MINDLESS SERIAL KILLERS?! Give me a break. It's a film, sit back and enjoy it.

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pcremeans6291: Right, and I guess you think no other military has done heinous things around the world either? Ever heard of the Rape of Nanking in WW2? Google it. Does it justify any heinous things the US military has done in the past? No. But every military that exists has done heinous things. Don't even get me started on the military because those brave men and women are the ones who allow you to express the views that you just did.

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I'd also be inclined to think that soldiers would follow orders and do what they are told.
There is a chain of command in the military and if you don't follow the chain of command, you risk being court marshalled.
Maybe some soldiers would go against the chain of command and not kill civilians, but the majority of them would most likely just do what they are told.

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In the military, you are not supposed to follow orders that break laws or are otherwise wrong. As in this situation, if their commander gave the order to kill all those civilians, and the story comes out, they will get court marshalled for NOT dis-obeying. The misconception that soldiers are just supposed to follow orders and not question them is incorrect. At least when it comes to questionable ethics and breaking laws.

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There is a chain of command in the military and if you don't follow the chain of command, you risk being court marshalled.


The oath you swear makes reference to lawful orders. Just following orders didn't get anybody off during the Nuremberg trials.

And to the dope you said what soldiers did to people trying to get out of New Orleans during Katrina. Crawl back into your hole. Next you're going to tell me that there were mini nukes used on 9/11.

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Your average soldier probably wouldn't be trusted with following such orders. So I say some elite special forces unit would be able to stomach it.

But it's clear that they were going to kill the soldiers too, that's why they appeared to be national guardsmen. Also, all you need is one soldier to pull the trigger in a group, and most people will follow. They certainly won't shoot the soldier who is following orders. The soldiers were there to enforce quarantine not kill the population, that's what the bomb was for. Once in the area of contamination, they were a liability too.

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"And to the dope you said what soldiers did to people trying to get out of New Orleans during Katrina. Crawl back into your hole. Next you're going to tell me that there were mini nukes used on 9/11."

Once again, it is a matter of public record that people were shot dead in the street after Katrina, men have been convicted for the crimes already.

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And to the dope you said what soldiers did to people trying to get out of New Orleans during Katrina.


It was that local police that did that (in new orleans)! ALL humans R motherf uc kin psychos!

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You people actually think your your government gives a damn about you and that they wouldn't do anything (including kill innocent civilians) to protect their own interests ? God you're so naive !

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And where are you from.

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What about the whole defending the country from all enemies "foreign AND DOMESTIC."? Is that just all BS?

I'm sure that between all the army contractors and military components of the CIA and homeland security as well as regular Marine and special ops. units they could get enough people to exterminate a little podunk town in the middle of Iowa.

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Its the 20th century... anything can happen ESPECIALLY when the government has full control of the scenerio. It's just going to get worse and worse...

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It is the 21st century.

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I think someone needs to watch a WW2 movie.
Nazi soldiers were humans too you know, they had feelings, had family, they loved and had people love them.
And they also followed their orders and killed a *beep* of jews.



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There have been many instances like this in film. I've always wondered the same thing as you. However, if a commanding officer tells the men "These people are infected, contagious and if this thing gets loose, you and your families will end up the same"...... I think the shooting begins soon after that speech.

And also to the ding dong with the Katrina comment, the local cops went over the top down there as another poster wrote. However, let's not forget the sweet populace of N.O., some of whom shot at relief helicopters. Nice.


End of the world? So what.

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The point is that they're eradicating any chance the virus, and the story that goes with it gets out to the world. Many of the innocents could have been carryers, and I doubt the military knew all there was to know about the property virus.

Instead of seeing the whole country infected they ruthlessly culled any chance of the virus leaving the site. Horrible, but this reason would have been pumped in to the soldier's heads.

finally, its a B-Movie.

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Going out on a limb here since I know some of you will not really hear what I’m saying. In the military we have a Use of Force model which dictates the course of how to take action when faced with a shoot or no shoot situation. In this module we have eight preconditions that authorizes the use of Deadly force.

Deadly force is defined - when reasonable, should be used only when all lesser means of force have failed or cannot reasonably be employed.

1. Inherent Right of Self-Defense. Applies when an individual reasonably believes he/she is in imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm.
2. Defense of Others. When an officer/sentry reasonably believes others are in imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm.
3. Assets Vital to National Security. Deadly force is authorized when deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to prevent the actual theft or sabotage of assets vital to national security.
4. Inherently Dangerous Property. Deadly force is authorized when it reasonably appears to be necessary to prevent the actual theft or sabotage of inherently dangerous property.
5. National Critical Infrastructure. Deadly force is authorized when deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to prevent the sabotage of national critical infrastructure.
6. Serious Offenses Against Persons. Deadly force is authorized when deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to prevent the commission of a serious offense that involves imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm
7. Escape. Deadly force is authorized when it reasonably appears to be necessary to prevent the escape of a prisoner, provided there is probable cause to believe such person(s) have committed or attempted to commit a serious offense
8. Arrest or Apprehension. Deadly force is authorized when deadly force reasonably appears necessary to arrest or apprehend a person who, there is probable cause to believe, has committed a serious offense


With all that said could the military be used to engage the civilian populace? Yes,
Would it be hard for the military to engage or possibly wipe out an entire town? Yes, but for the greater good it would done.


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