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What events in the movie are not historically accurate?


Thoroughly LOVED this movie. But I don't know that much about the story. What liberties were taken in this movie?

Thanks for any info shared.

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The "rebellion" INSIDE the Dodgers organization was way overdone -- it did happen, but Rickey (not Durocher) dealt with it quickly and ruthlessly, informing the petition signers if they did not relent they would be shipped to the most remote and godforsaken outposts in the world of organized baseball, if not shipped out of baseball forever.


At the time Rickey was a virtual god in the Brooklyn Dodgers organization -- what he said was the law, and if he wanted to ship somebody somewhere, they were gone. In the days of the reserve clause, players had no options to become free agents or anything else; Rickey could (and did) essentially threaten to simply suspend without pay (permanently) any players who did not go along with his plans -- and end their careers.

Had any significant number of Dodger players stuck to their guns and stood behind the petition, Rickey would have responded by suspending them all without pay for several years (long enough their careers would be over) and then, to fill the talent gaps in the Dodger organization, he would have launched upon a Negro Leagues signing spree to grab virtually the entire Negro Leagues all-star team of the time.

As things turned out, Rickey proceeded more cautiously, signing black players in limited numbers over the next several years (adding Don Newcombe and Roy Campanella to the roster within 3 years).


What was not really touched upon in the movie was that petitions were circulated among OTHER National League teams (St. Louis and Cincinnati mainly) threatening to pull their teams off the field if Robinson played. Ford Frick, president of the NL (and later commissioner) threatened to mass-suspend any players who did so ('and I don't care if it wrecks the National League for five years,' Frick wrote in a letter to the strikers).





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Also, don't forget that the IMDb keep a "goofs" page on each movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0453562/trivia?tab=gf&ref_=tt_trv_gf

And if anyone here feels they have a hard case for a misrepresentation in the flick, they're welcome to submit it!

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And I'd like that. But that *beep* ain't the truth. --Jules Winnfield

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In ten years in the big leagues, Jackie Robinson was NEVER hit in the head by a pitched ball. "Fritz" Ostermueller was a 39 year old LEFT handed pitcher. He had to have surgery on his shattered left elbow a few years earlier. In baseball terminology, his fastball "couldn't break an egg". Robinson had enough time to put his arm up and was hit on the arm. The scene with the stitches on his head was a complete untruth! I don't know why this had to be remade, "The Jackie Robinson Story" 1950, starring Jackie himself was a better story!

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1) The movie shows racist Phillies skipper Ben Chapman alone shouting vile racial insults at Robinson, but fails to show that several of his players were also yelling insults. (The bigotted Chapman used to shout insults at Jewish fans when he was on the Yankees).

2) Leo Durocher claimed in his autobiography that during Spring Training he put a stop to any Dodger petitions or threats against Robinson. But maybe Durocher was not the most honest source. Perhaps Ralph Branca, or Carl Erskine or another young player is still around and can confirm this.


Additionally, the movie did NOT show how slugger Hank Greenberg, with the Pirates in 1947, encouraged Robinson and even inviting him to dinner while one was on first and the other playing first base. The Jewish slugger had endured anti-Semitic insults in the past.

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Also, Chapman wasn't fired that season from his job and "banned forever" from working in the MLB for being a racist. He was fired a over a year later as the team really slipped down the rankings, he would then work for the Reds a few years later.

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The movie says Durocher was suspended for his relationship with Laraine Day. According to his Wikipedia page, Durocher was suspended for associating with gamblers. I do not know which is true, but I suspect the latter is true, that is, the gambling.

All said, however, the movie was excellent.

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How about things the movie failed to mention that could significantly alter the public perception of events?

Like Jackie was the only black ballplayer ... for about 13 weeks. In July, Larry Doby was playing in Cleveland, and both Willard Brown AND Hank Thompson were in St. Louis.

(FWIW, Doby was easily the best player of the four early, but is largely forgotten today.)

Also, the film (IMO) did not accurately show the level of support many black players received from those within greater Major League Baseball. Consider this: Doby received more MVP votes from sports writers just 3 years later (in 1950) than Joe DiMaggio or Ted Williams!


(Also, Jackie was not the first black Major League Player. Black players were banned around 1890, but played before then. The first was probably Moses Walker.)

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Jackie Robinson was actually the first Jewish ballplayer in MLB. They made him black because Chad Boseman really killed in the audition.

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Jackie Robinson was actually the first Jewish ballplayer in MLB. They made him black because Chad Boseman really killed in the audition.
Best laugh I've had all day.Thank you for that.

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