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people who understood it - convince me (no haters plz)


i love M Night and have stuck by all his other films until i got the overall meaning and references throughout. Yet Lady is the one which i have never liked and simply dont understand.

i know this was a bedtime story for his kids or sumthin so he decided to make a film of it but is that all there is to it? is there a wider perspective and a point to it?

please help me out and convince me that this is as good as Shyamalan's others.

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i wish i could convince you buddy!!? i thought "the happening" was bad? this 100 times worse!! i still dont have a clue! and to have paul giamatti in it? who i love! shows you how bad it was, ya seems like movie should have just been a nightime fairy tale cartoon for kids? i like the way m. knight uses that make belive theme in his movies, but this was just too much! still clueless? and i hate when people bring up he is paying homage to the older movies? no one would think those movies would be scary now days? (hitchcock) not saying him and others wernt great? but that just dont cut it nowdays! so no sense tryin to make those kind of films in this day and age? and "the happening" watch "invasion of the bodysnatchers" or "invasion" totally ripped of that movie! guy had some good films, but think he he is running out of ideas? working on "unbreakable 2"? should give you a clue he is struggling for new ideas? i liked movie! but wasnt a huge hit and dont know if worthy of a sequel? but we will see? but "lady in the water" i think worse move i have ever seen! wish i could help?

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I Actually liked this movie. I Thought the Village and The Happening were terrible.

AsIWalkthroughTheValleyNTheShadowOfDeathIHaveNoFearCauseImTheMeanestMotherf$*#&!InTheWholeValley...

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This film was about how M. Night Shyamalan will one day be seen as a prophet who was revered by the people who change the world.

Very touching. After this film I think everyone finally could believe that M. Night was the new SAVIOR.

Anyone has the ability to heal and realize that M. Night is great...

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This film got rejected by his original company he pitches his ideas to. They said it was too much info to condense into a movie and would make no sense (Boy were they right!) He thought it was a bright idea to stick with this script and pitched it elsewhere. It doesn't make sense not because you don't understand it, but simply because it DOESN'T make sense. It's a bunch of thrown together garbage. M. Night is done.

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disney became a religious christian freak, i think the only reason they refused this is shyamalan (possibly unintentionally)making fun of their three stupid gods.

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i love M Night and have stuck by all his other films until i got the overall meaning and references throughout. Yet Lady is the one which i have never liked and simply dont understand.
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you need to ask yourself if you don't like it BECAUSE you don't understand it, which is the NORMAL gig for the Night haters.

or more precisely people hate his movies because he is always too close to the bone ABOUT THEM.

I too have yet to fully understand the Dylan/King message here [and once I watch No Direction Home again I am sure I will] but that does NOT mean I don't really like it.

Maggies Farm song is the key to all this which is obviously why Night included it

http://www.kindleflippages.com/ablog/

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you need to watch it several time, it grows on you. and great observation on maggies farm, that could be for disney.

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Dylan wrote Maggies Farm re how he refused to be exploited as a "protest singer" by the then protest junkies.

Dylan saw the irony in protesting about being forced to protest.

in a way his Only a Pawn in the Game [about assassination of Medgar Evers] which he sang at the Washington March BECAME as much a warning to himself as a social comment, ie HE was being used as a pawn by the "everything rights" fanatics, so he got out

http://www.kindleflippages.com/ablog/

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i like Dylan's old songs but i don't believe he has a political conscience.

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like John Lennon he was grabbed by the "Rights for the sake of Rights" fanatics who wanted to USE his interest in "social politics" to further their "cause".

Both refused via a song - Dylan by Maggies Farm and Lennon via Revolution and that is done very well in Across the Universe

http://www.kindleflippages.com/ablog/

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but lennon continued to have values while dylan didn't have any.

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as dylan said when asked why he stopped "pure" protest songs, "all songs protest about something"

not sure about Lennon who after "Give Peace a Chance" simply settled for "I'm Just Watching the Wheels go Round".

but not sure what you mean by "values"

http://www.kindleflippages.com/ablog/

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all lennon's solo career started after give peace a chance, and it's full of songs about things other than love. i agree with dylan not to want to be controlled by the hippies and marxists, but the guy didn't have a heart for lebanon that was destroyed by the israelies in 1982, and supported the invasion.

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but the guy didn't have a heart for lebanon that was destroyed by the israelies in 1982, and supported the invasion

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but that's just IT dude, he dialed OUT of specific bitches starting with the march on Washington and concentrated on the BIG PICTURE - totally AWAY from stupid politics

if he saw a duty to go in for Lebanon then why not Biafra, etc etc

it simply was NOT his job - that was a job for the softcocks in power eg it was Nixon who allowed Biafra to be wiped out while HE was wiping out Vietnam himself.

Dylan had already DONE his duty via his epic song of the century With God on Our Side, but did Bush take any notice?

http://www.kindleflippages.com/ablog/

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It was just an innocent story Night wanted to do because his films are typically intense and unsettling all the way through, alas Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, and The Happening. In a way all his films are connected along the lines of human suffering and compensation for the suffering. In Sixth Sense the boy learned how to cope with the spirits that haunted him while his doctor finally found the will to breakaway from life because he's no longer a part of it anyway. In Unbreakable Willis finally understood how to harness his powers that he didn't believe he had, and for the greater good. In Signs a man regains hope in his faith in miracles and beliefs. Lady in the Water, man sees a second chance to save an innocent life where he failed to protect his family. The Village and The Happening is where this theme definitely protrudes and Night loses his direction. However I liked The Village because how delightfully traditional and atmospheric Night likes to make his films. Also because it was literally a lament to the olden days.

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One of my, and my family's, all time faves, and easily our favorite M. Night film!

There's a lot of wonderful aspects to this film that have already been addressed, but I appreciate this film, in part only, because we may not completely understand it; it leaves room for consideration long after I've experienced it [going on ten years now, and it still has me interested enough to think/remark upon it...].

Thank you for your endeavor on this work, M. Night.

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It is not as good as his other films! only a few love it so there's no need for you to be convinced. even I, who adore this film, can find whole bunch of bad stupid things about it.

we loved shyamallan not just because he made perfect films. but also his characteristics... the tone of mystery and supernatural elements lurking around dirty realistic apartments and dirty realistic people living inside it. the kinds of emotions he deals with. heartwarming and sympathetic. some of the things we loved about him are still there.

and you just... enjoy it. I did. no wider perspective whatsoever.

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