Maybe it was the times, but would you kill yourself if you were completely innocent of a crime?????
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he never actually denies killing her which bugged me... perhaps as has been said he was drugged and just assumed he did!?
shareThe flashbacks at the end of the movie show the prince passed out in the stables with someone (I forgot if it is Eisenheim or the girl) pouring blood on his sword. So he may have woken up and though that he really did kill her.
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So essentially, despite his being a Royal (pun intended) jerk, Eisenheim and Sophie were responsible for the death of an "innocent man?"
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Well he as guilty of high treason, which would most likely have carried the death penalty. Plus, it's strongly implied that he has murdered before.
And then.....AND THEN THE CAGE COMES DOWN!
They weren't responsible for the Prince's death- HE is the one who shot himself. No one put a gun to his head... oh wait, HE did. ;-P
shareYup basically. And then they got away with the framing and murder (bullying him to suicide) and lived happily ever after.
sharenytesprite has really hit the nail on the head in his relpies.
Life is just one damned thing after another - Elbert Hubbard
He never denied it, because he wasn't sure himself. In the solution at the end you can see the duchess put something in the prince's drink, some drug apparently, because he stumbles around like a drunk. The next real shot we get is her (or Eisenheim, I can't remember) putting the unconscious prince in the stable, putting his sword beneath him, her little butterfly-charm and fake blood (or pig blood or who knows).
So he probably woke up and realized something bad happened, then Eisenheim and the people find her presumably dead body. She is stored in the carriage and Eisenheim's old friend, the manager (I guess) disguised himself as the royal doctor to keep nosy people away from her. She was sleeping by taking a strong drug I guess, because we see her swallowing some drips of a medicine and she wakes up panting. So therefore the fake doctor put the fake dead body in the carriage and smuggled her out of Vienna. Eisenheim and Fischer already talked about that, but we assumed for a good time, that their plan failed, because she got "killed" before reaching Eisenheim at the train station. Therefore their little "Is she aware of what she is doing and what does it mean?" and "You go ahead with her and I follow you, when I am done" planning meant nothing to the audience anymore, by killing her off and seeing Eisenheim waiting "desperately" at the train station.
Anyways, very cool flick though plot wise (and plot twist wise) I preferred Prestige. I really liked Giamatti in this movie though. He's an exceptional actor and I want to see more "normal good guy" roles of him and less mumbling, loud, or menacing portrayals.
Norton was cool, he hadn't much of a job except for looking mysteriously and playing necromancer on stage.
It was probably for the plans to overthrow the king (his father)/treason.
shareHe was drugged, then woke up with a bloodstained sword next to him. He must have thought he killed her. Back then, murderers were hung or got the guillotine. So I saw the suicide coming a mile away. I can easily see why he did it.
"I feel all the time like a cat on a hot tin roof!"
Well.. I think it was because he would kill them if they were on the run. Sophie tells this to Edward and maybe that was the reason, so they wouldn't get killed?
Gravitation can not be held resposible for people falling in love
I think they could have left the suicide out(only problem I had w/the movie but it was implied he'd killed before, he beats Sophie and probebly would have killed her had he not passed out.
shareHis plot to overthrow the Austrian government in Hungry would of been kept secret from the public.
The emperor would of looked bad if people knew his own son turned against him.
The princes punishment would of been house arrest or he could of been giving a post in North Africa just to get him out of the way for awhile.
The worset fate would of been him being handed a gun to shoot himself. (Which was considered a more honorable way to die)
Crown prince Rudolph was plainning the same thing n real life.He ended up dead too.
Exposure of his plans would have hurt the whole government.
Papermoonfan, where did you get the idea the Crown Prince Rudolf was plotting for Hungary? From Wikipedia, just to let you know that the site itself isn't 100% correct about Rudolf. If not, from what evidence?
"Did you think that I would harm her?"-The Phantom
He killed himself for treason not for the murder of Sophie.
In the secene the inspector tells the prince that he told the royal guard about the murder of Sophie. The prince says the royal guard wouldn't care about that. Then the inspector tells the prince that he told them about the plot to overthrow his father which the royal guard would care about.
That's why he kills himself. Even if he killed Sophie he wouldn't have been punished for the crime.
C'mon you know how these things happen ... you have a few drinks ... and then you wake up with a dead chick and blood all over your sword and one hell of a hang over... what happens in the barn stays in the barn ;)
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Yep, I must admit that it's a gapping hole in zee fabric of zee plot.
What happens in the barn, stays in the barn! Hahahaha!
Boy, really, they get away with murder. And what's this, suddenly, about him wanting the kingdom to boot?
Hm. Dodgy actually. Come to think of it.
First of all the word "innocent" is not a great word.
Sorry to get caught up in semantics, but "not guilty" is probably better.
Next, according to the director's commentary for the film, all scenes shown with blurred edges are the speculation of Inspector Walter Uhl (Paul Giamatti) which means that they are not the actual truth. They are how what the inspector thinks things might have happened. This includes his theory that Sophie is still alive and that the Prince was framed.
The Prince may have actually killed her.
Even if he wasn't guilty he could still feel guilty. If he did not kill Sophie there are still other things that could have driven him to suicide:
1. It is suggested early on that he caused the death of another one of his mistresses.
2. If he was drugged as Inspector Uhl speculated, he would not have remembered and may believe that he did kill her after all.
3. Because of the possibility of being charged with treason against his father.
4. Hormonal imbalance?
Because he's not. He's actually conspiring against his father. The trumped up murder charge is just a sleight of hand...point of the movie.
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