So I just finished watching the series for the first time and I have to say I hated Nancy. At first I was hoping she would grow on me and the more the show continued, the more my dislike for her grew and I was finding her to be so untollerable. Anyone else feel the same way?
I loved everyone else (except for Celia couldn't stand her either lol), Andy and Shane being my favorites, just couldn't get past her know-it-all slutty attitude.
She really is an unlikeable character, but her many flaws were what drove the series, much as Walter White's drove "Breaking Bad."
shareShe really is an unlikeable character, but her many flaws were what drove the series, much as Walter White's drove "Breaking Bad."
this is true , and i agree with pple saying as the story goes on longer the more you dislike her. With each season, the more selfish Nacy gets. in one of the later seasons the family is fleeing the sceen of the crime , the kids wanted to grab a few personal items and nacey says they dont have time. all the while she brought a big bag of hers shoes with them. I hated her after that.
that being said i still overall loved the show. For me Doug and andy carried the show.
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Nacey and Piper from o.s.t.n.b are the same character.
At the end of the day they care about themselves most of all , while acting like they got screwed over.
piper in jail only for like 16 months with good time thats only like 8 months. She cant help herself from cheating on her boyfriend for 8 months? Theres a ton of other reasons why iper is very self centered that would take pages up.
Orange is the new black is only in its second season , like Weeds i think the longer it goes the more you will see it.
Also Nacey was married and had kids before the series started. She gave up her wild side for her family. Only when her family is broken does she throw caution to the wind.
again , just wait Pipers wild habbits will bleed threw , lol it wouldnt make for a good show if they didnt. Nacey and piper are just at different points in there lives , but the same character.
Well that explains why I hate Nancy AND Piper! Lol
I just don't see how bath shows could have such great supporting cast members and such terrible female leads.
That terrible lead was nominated for a multitude of cinema awards and won one almost every year. She also holds an Oscar for Best Actress from the movie Fried Green Tomatoes. I have to admit, as much as I have disdain for her character's choices throughout the series, I will also admit that she did the best she could with what she could to try to keep the life her children had when their father was alive. Each decision she makes seems to involve a greater risk of playing with mortality but every time her children are in danger (with the exception of Shane killing Pilar) she will always step up to the plate to keep them safe, even if she knows there is a greater chance of her impending death. Both Her bravery and valor is admirable when scrutinized weather we like it not... Holds true to the old saying... "If you live by the gun, then chances are you die by the gun."
shareMary Louise Parker was never nominated for an Oscar. She was in Fried Green Tomatoes, but the only two Oscars were for writing and to Jessica Tandy for supporting actress.
sharewhen nancy grabbed the bag of shoes,,,,, which was never shown but brought up, it was def not in "one of the later seasons" it was in the end of season 3, brought up in the first episode of season 4, and never were they fleeing the scene of a crime. The family didnt come with her when she doused the house in gasoline.
sharePilar was killed (and subsequent fleeing) at the end of Season 5 - not 3 or 4 !
shareI thought she was an interesting and funny character. I got tired of Celia after a while, so I was kind of glad when she was written out of the show. I liked pretty much every other character. Got a bit tired of Doug, too, until the very end lol.
"I must express myself." - Delia Deetz
As rjbmuse mentioned, Nancy is an antihero in the same vein of Walter White or Tony Soprano, a flawed character who lacks the traits of a traditional hero-protagonist such as altruism, moral fortitude, etc. - characteristics we aspire to have. Instead Nancy is not an evil person (she acts in what she thinks is the best interest of her family) but narcissistic and borderline with sociopath tendencies.
Jenji Kohan's other series, Orange Is The New Black, has a similar protagonist. While not an evil character she's in prison and refuses to accept responsibility for her own actions.
We're used to the paradigm where the flawed character is ultimately redeemed. When this happens, as was the case with Breaking Bad, people scream SELL OUT because it went against type. When it doesn't happen, as was the case with Sopranos, people get angry because there was no emotional resolution. Weeds tended towards the latter with a glimmer of hope, that Nancy would be able to finally live a life for herself, so maybe it walks the middle ground.
Piper in OITNB actually turned herself in. She's taking responsibility for her actions.
sharePiper was arrested and convicted after Alex implicated her in drug trafficking to reduce her own sentence. She had little choice to surrender herself after sentencing.
shareSo she took responsibility and didn't flee from the cops. Not sure how you're getting that she wasn't accepting responsibility. Are you suggesting she should have gone to the police to come clean even without the cops having any idea of what she was doing??
shareGetting arrested nine years after committing a crime after someone else turns you in is "taking responsibility". Gotcha.
shareAgain, she didn't flee from the cops. She accepted she broke the law and needed to be punished for it. And again, are you suggesting she should have gone to the police to come clean even without the cops having any idea she committed a crime?? What sane person would do that??
shareI agree with your assessment of Piper, however I "like" Nancy, thus far, more than Piper. Piper always blames others for her problems and presents herself as better than everyone else. Nancy is at least fun to watch. Piper is excruciating.
shareShe could have very easily "lived a life of her own" by getting a freakin' job. Instead, she makes the 'lifestyle decision' to stay in her McMansion and deal dope instead...which she is smart enough to know will eventually bring trouble to her family. Yes, Nancy is charming, and she is cute, and funny...and incredibly selfish.
shareI do feel the same way, she was really an awful person.
shareNah you just lack emotional range. She is a nightmare but I don't hate her. She is damaged goods and there is a nice person in there somewhere. It is interesting to watch a show where the star is a mess, and even more interesting that she never turns it around. If she was 25 and still smoking hot, I bet you would have seen it differently.
shareThe difference between Nancy and Piper is that with Piper we get a pretty good understanding of why she does the things she does and the choices she made that brought her there. There's a lot of stuff about Piper that's unlikeable, but she's a real character. You understand her motivations. I like Piper a lot. I think she's flawed in a very real way. She keeps trying to figure things out and messes things up and can't figure out why things keep getting messed up. It's fun to watch. With Nancy, you have no idea why she's doing anything. She makes very stupid decision that make very little sense. I haven't finished watching it all yet and I'm not sure I will. I'm on season four and they have never explained why she doesn't have some sort of insurance settlement or some money from her dead husband, how she made the decision to start selling drugs, and why she doesn't just go and get a legit job to keep herself and her family safe. If it's because she really needs to have that much money and that lifestyle, they should really show that she's devoted to that - but they don't. We get very little idea of who she is. Sometimes she's scared and vulnerable, then she's a bada** who takes control, then she's a victim, then she's smart, then she's stupid - it's not consistent. It's impossible to like her because you never understand why she does anything. The only thing that comes up as pretty consistent is that she's very selfish - she claims to do this all for her children but it's pretty clear that she doesn't really care that much about what happens to them. That's the only bit of character you get from her.
shareWith Nancy, you have no idea why she's doing anything.
lol, wut? She is still smoking hot.
shareI just finished watching them too, and I hated her character more and more, but I always felt bad for the character. She just reminds me of a kid that has no guidance and has been put in charge of smaller children. Basically, I hated her because she was a big baby inside a grown up body, she was very ignorant, and she reminds me of people that refuses to accept that everybody dies.
People comparing her to Orange is the New Black are really dumb. She acts nothing like Piper or comparing her to Walter from breaking bad. The huge difference is that Walter for most of his life try to the right thing until he finds out he is going to die from cancer. In the other hand, we do not see Nancy even trying to do that. She was a swinger, slept with her teacher at a very young age and she still goes to that dude for help, she has 3 kids with 3 different man, she relied mostly on her husband to support the family, she is involved in many illegal things, she uses people, she manipulates people, she uses sex to get things from people none of these things makes a role model nor people aspire to them and at the end she gets to be a millionaire (do you need more reason why you hate her). Piper does something stupid once for a woman that she loves not because she is into the whole trafficking thing and she goes into society and makes a living for herself by working a decent job NOTHING like Nancy from Weeds. Nancy is trash from the very beginning and she thinks only her and her family deserve to have certain life style no matter what.
Judah was Silas and Shane's father. Where did you get that all three boys have different fathers?
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Silas' father is revealed to be Lars, Nancy's high school boyfriend.
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Judah was not Silas's biological father. That storyline comes out in season 6
shareOh boy... perhaps you never saw the end of Season 6. This is awkward.
shareNancy wasn't a swinger, she was *beep* with the reporter when she said that. However she was a slut lol.
And apparently the money that would of benefited her and the kids was spent remodeling the kitchen. Its literally said in the first 2 minutes of the pilot. Still, that's a freaking expensive kitchen so I don't know.
With why she began selling? In season five when you hear more about her past you find out she's an adrenaline junkie. Judah stabilized her but when he died she went right back.
Yes she may not have a great past but so what? Walter still did much worse things over the course of the show than she ever did and people still defend him.
shareShe is an awful person, and I always hoped she would get the bad ending she deserves, but at the same time she's one of the most interesting characters I've ever seen on TV.
I kept watching the show long after it became a chore, purely because I still found her so fascinating.
Sat and forever am at work here.
She is unlikeable. That's the thing with some adult shows though. Sometimes the main character isn't the hero or even a good guy. We can still be entertained by them. In the sense that it's compelling, not that we are neccessarily rooting for them. I thought it was interesting that in the beginning of the series it seemed like she was supposed to have been a regular housewife, who only turned this way because her husband died and they needed money...... Then as the series went on we learned that she she was always pretty bad. Hooking up with her teacher in highschool and cheating on her husband and having him raise someone elses son.
I actually didn't like Andy when he first showed up, but then he became my favorite character.
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I stopped watching at the beginning of season 6 because the thought of where they would go with it just bored me. So I missed the thing about Silas. I do like that at the beginning nancy seems like a suburban mom just trying to make ends meet and slowly you realize that she's really an awful person - selfish with a nasty meanstreak and some pretty erratic behavior. I love that concept. But for me they didn't do enough with her character to make you understand her. It takes far too long - four seasons worth, to really start getting that.
shareI see what your saying with her always having been bad like since high school in the latter seasons but I jut don't think that's an excuse..
And yes I hated Andy in the beginning too! I'm was like 100 more episodes of this crap it was like idk if u can watch till the end, then by the end of the season i was like oh my god I love him, so funn! He is easily my favorite character!