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I find it hilarious that this board is all 'left vs right'

posted 10 years ago by jtbarrington
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This movie is not left or right. It's totalitarianism vs anarchy. These concepts are on a separate axis than left and right. Both left and right exhibit forms of totalitarianism and anarchy.

American politics is terrible because most everyone thinks the political spectrum is linear. Alas, it's much more 3-dimensional. Rather than understand basic politics, we just bash each other, accuse each other of the same things, parrot buzzwords, and bark the same old talking points. It's sad, really.

[–] greg-233 10 years ago

A few months ago I made a thread similar to yours on the 1984 board. I also mentioned V For Vendetta in that thread because John Hurt happened to be in it. The thread was called Why do "Left" and "Right" keep coming up in these stories?" It's still there:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087803/board/inline/229312279

[–] Jack Doyle 10 years ago

the novel was, the film is more totalitarianism vs liberalism.

[–] DeclanCochran 10 years ago

Mate if you think the (at best) pseudo-anarchic drivel this film so desperately peddles (to the young, disenfranchised, deeply self-centred white men aged 13-30 who want an injustice to moan about but have none because they're mired in privilege, who wholly comprise this films' fanbase) is liberalism then you need to take a course in politics. I am a liberal, and I would be ashamed any liberal who acted like this.

[–] jjpete7 10 years ago

Commie

[–] Jack Doyle 9 years ago

I've taken rather a few old chap having a doctorate in international relations.

So you'd be ashamed of the resistance movements in World War 2 or the founding fathers of the US?

You've made yourself appear rather foolish, I'd suggest you read Andrew Heywood's Political Theory an Introduction and also his book on Political Ideologies their an extremely primer for the beginner.

[–] Jeorj Euler 10 years ago

While V for Vendetta is not left or right, the villains of the story have "right wing" motifs. It's kind of like how the villain of The Dark Knight Rises has "left wing" motifs. Sometimes audiences read too much into these kinds of things.

[–] greg-233 10 years ago

"Sometimes audiences read too much into these kinds of things."

Or people just want to use a film board to fruitlessly argue about politics. But IMDb already has a "Politics" board for that. (Possibly the most insane and inane board on the web.)

[–] Jeorj Euler 10 years ago

Or people just want to use a film board to fruitlessly argue about politics.

What? I've seen that happen on occasion, but usually political idealism is incorporated into the criticism of a film and there is no actual arguing about politics. On the message board for politics, there is no discussion of film despite it being a board within a cinema catalog site.

[–] greg-233 10 years ago

"What? I've seen that happen on occasion, but usually political idealism is incorporated into the criticism of a film and there is no actual arguing about politics."

On the 1984 board someone started a thread called "Why do leftists refuse to see the gov of Big Brother is leftist?" The thread was started over two years ago and is STILL getting replies. 67 as of last count. Trolls know that politics gets people.... agitated:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087803/board/inline/196249073

Trolls are also aware that evolution and climate change are topics that stir up controversy. The science programme Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey came out earlier this year. The IMDb board for that show was riddled with "evolution versus creationism" threads, and accusations that the show had a "leftist" agenda with its warnings about the threat of climate change. As if climate change were a partisan issue.

[–] GoodSOVeryVeryGood 9 years ago

Being informed on a topic is seemingly the new "leftist agenda" …. how dare one be knowledgable !!!! Ignorance is the populist tool … ugh ..

[–] justin-tanski 10 years ago

^ This.

[–] NikolajCostas1005 10 years ago

I agree. Most people of a small-minded variety (heep) tend to use anything of a political nature as an excuse to bash their opposition. Everything is so black and white, conservative and liberal. If only life and its issues really were that simple and could be addressed with one political party or another.

[–] Ithilfaen 10 years ago

This movie is not left or right. It's totalitarianism vs anarchy. These concepts are on a separate axis than left and right. Both left and right exhibit forms of totalitarianism and anarchy.

But the people who make everything about their narrow-minded view of politics prefer simple things they can understand easily so totalitarianism and anarchy are hard to understand.

However, perhaps it's also because they recognize their own ideas in either side of the movie and project their real aspirations under a more politically correct politic "affiliation".

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

[–] Jack Doyle 10 years ago

You do realise Totalitarianism is extreme Right wing and Anarchism is extreme left wing? the right - left scale is all about the diffusion of political power. The more people power is diffused amongst the more left wing a system or view is until it reaches anarchism where every individual has absolute sovereignty.

[–] jtbarrington 10 years ago

You couldn't be more wrong. Go educate yourself on the various political spectrums.

[–] RbDeraj 9 years ago

Technically it is about the far right (being totalitarian fascism), but I agree it is comedic how people think its all about "left" and "right" which they interpret as "conservatives" versus "liberals." Even then those descriptions don't even fit into the extremes of "left" and right."

The movie deals most with totalitarian vs democracy imo. From what I remember the graphic novel was more focused on real political anarchy (which is what Alan Moore was a supporter of if I remember clearly).